uPortal IRC Logs-2007-08-14

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[10:26:23 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> oi ... I'm not having much luck with this resource filtering stuff
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[10:47:47 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> ok ... have the filtering working
[10:47:48 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> hrm
[10:48:06 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I think I'm going to need some help figuring out the best ways to arrange some things
[10:49:14 EDT(-0400)] <esm> cool sounds like good progress
[10:49:26 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> well I have issues like this ...
[10:49:38 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I need rdbm.properties in uportal-war to filter context.xml
[10:49:49 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> but it is also needed in uportal-impl since all the command line tools need it
[10:49:56 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> so where do I put it
[10:51:40 EDT(-0400)] <esm> maybe create a uportal-resources subproject and depend on it
[10:52:27 EDT(-0400)] <esm> i'm not sure how that would work with filtering though
[10:52:40 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> hrm ...
[10:52:44 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I'll have to play with that
[10:52:55 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I wonder if you can reliably reference across projects
[10:56:56 EDT(-0400)] * pberry wonders why the Groups Manager html was designed in Excel
[11:08:34 EDT(-0400)] <lescour> i was looking around svn for unicons updates to the announcements channel (for san joaquin delta college). anybody seen them?
[11:13:25 EDT(-0400)] <esm> hmm
[11:18:02 EDT(-0400)] <esm> ran across this at mojo.codehaus: Super Helpful Integration Testing ThingY (SHITTY) Maven Plugin
[11:18:10 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> wow
[11:18:25 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> interesting
[11:18:40 EDT(-0400)] <esm> EricDalquist: managing resource dependencies may be a little painful
[11:19:50 EDT(-0400)] <esm> there is the remote resources plugin but I don't know if it will do filtering
[11:21:36 EDT(-0400)] <esm> i'm looking at the resources plugin tos ee if it can pull stuff from the classpath
[11:23:01 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> brb
[13:12:20 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> oi .. so I'm really not sure what my best approach is do deal with configuration files and such
[13:12:32 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> you have any time to brainstorm with me today esm?
[13:12:46 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> or anyone else in here that wants to help get uportal mavenized
[13:13:34 EDT(-0400)] <esm> yeah i have some time
[13:14:01 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> so I haven't had a chance to try the -resources module yet but that does sound like one option
[13:14:13 EDT(-0400)] <esm> i'm still playing with it
[13:14:19 EDT(-0400)] <esm> i'm goign to get on the codehaus irc
[13:14:49 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> did you grab my commit from this morning that has the context filtering but rdbm.properties in -war?
[13:15:03 EDT(-0400)] <esm> ah no i'll pull it down
[13:15:19 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> you'll need to run the bootstrap again
[13:15:51 EDT(-0400)] <esm> k
[13:49:49 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> hrm
[13:50:04 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> moving rdbm.propertied back into uportal-impl and then doing
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[13:50:09 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> seems to work ...
[13:50:17 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I wonder how 'bad' that is to do
[13:50:21 EDT(-0400)] <esm> yeah
[13:50:29 EDT(-0400)] <esm> if it works for now, go for it
[13:50:46 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yeah I think that will be good
[13:51:08 EDT(-0400)] <esm> i'm working on patching remote-resources to do what it shold be doing
[13:51:20 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> looks like it works from the project root and from uportal-war
[13:51:23 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> remote-resources?
[13:51:31 EDT(-0400)] <esm> MRRP maven remote resources plugin
[13:51:54 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> ah
[13:52:02 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> how's the wsrp4j work going?
[13:52:16 EDT(-0400)] <esm> good
[13:52:24 EDT(-0400)] <esm> i have to fix a url encoding issue
[13:52:41 EDT(-0400)] <esm> not sure if it should be fixed on the producer or consumer side
[13:53:01 EDT(-0400)] <esm> and once that is fixed, there are only two pluto testsuite tests that fail
[13:53:43 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> wow
[13:53:48 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> that's exciting
[13:55:26 EDT(-0400)] <esm> yeah
[13:55:53 EDT(-0400)] <esm> when the testsuite passes, I'll update wsrp4j trunk.
[13:56:29 EDT(-0400)] <esm> and then take a look as some of the other messy stuff like persistence, lack of unit tests, etc.
[13:56:41 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist>
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[14:14:11 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> Hey, it's zombie jason
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[14:18:13 EDT(-0400)] <apetro_win_home> Crowded in here.
[14:18:23 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> welcome
[14:18:50 EDT(-0400)] <apetro_win_home> Just getting back from Baltimore, sister's wedding, good times
[14:18:59 EDT(-0400)] <apetro_win_home> Now frantically trying to make the JA-SIG newsletter deadline that was Monday
[14:19:00 EDT(-0400)] <apetro_win_home> http://www.ja-sig.org/wiki/display/UPC/200708+August+2007+JASIG+Newsletter+Contributions
[14:19:19 EDT(-0400)] <apetro_win_home> Anyone have anything to add to this month's blurb? EricDalquist am I duplicating effort you've already done somewhere?
[14:19:33 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> nope and nope
[14:20:09 EDT(-0400)] <apetro_win_home> I wanted to put in my list of people to thank, but I figure I've beaten that drum on the release announcements and the blurb's long enough
[14:25:08 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> ok ... now that I think I have filtering working correctly
[14:25:17 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> time to start on the uportal-ear sub-project
[14:25:26 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> yeah, quit hogging all the space Eric. Just because you're tall...
[14:25:54 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> though I'm not sure how I'm going to deal with libraries going into shared/lib vs common/lib vs common/endorsed
[14:26:18 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> drugs
[14:26:23 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> lots of drugs
[14:26:25 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist>
[14:27:02 EDT(-0400)] <esm> what libs need to be endorsed now that java 5 is required?
[14:27:13 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> well, I'm not sure
[14:27:19 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> we're still putting xalan there
[14:27:26 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I'll have to test and see if that is actually needed
[14:27:31 EDT(-0400)] <esm> the only reason xml libs would need to be endorsed is if they required an older version of JAXP
[14:28:01 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> hrm
[14:28:02 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> ok
[14:28:06 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> well we'll see
[14:28:12 EDT(-0400)] <esm> pluto 1.1.4 doesn't need any endorsed xml libs when running under 1.5
[14:28:23 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> meeting time now (yay only 3 in a row today)
[14:28:30 EDT(-0400)] <esm> you do need to set the system property org.apache.pluto.useJaxp=true though.
[14:29:28 EDT(-0400)] <esm> http://portals.apache.org/pluto/pluto-descriptor-impl/index.html
[14:31:24 EDT(-0400)] <esm> oh. i forget that up 2 is still on pluto 1.0.1
[14:33:10 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yeah
[14:33:19 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> it will be getting switched
[14:33:23 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> but for now is on 101
[14:33:46 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> so, would it be possible to set Whirly Cache to WARN by doing cache.CacheDecorator=WARN in Logger.properties
[14:34:20 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yeah
[14:34:28 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> you need to set additivity to false as well
[14:35:11 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> ex:
[14:35:11 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> #log4j.category.org.hibernate=TRACE, R
[14:35:11 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> #log4j.additivity.org.hibernate=false
[14:35:28 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> that is the general pattern for per-package log level control
[14:38:53 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> ah
[14:40:05 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> reading the log4j manual makes my brain hurt
[14:40:10 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yeah
[14:40:18 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> log4j is in need of a revamp
[14:40:23 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> decent jmx support
[14:40:24 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> and who let them make up words?
[14:40:31 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> adding interesting JDK5 features
[14:40:40 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> In France we could turn them in for breaking the law
[14:43:08 EDT(-0400)] <esm> lol
[14:43:40 EDT(-0400)] <esm> i've been taking a look at slf4j
[14:45:56 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> nifty
[14:46:07 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> it looks like it does the string token replacement
[14:46:16 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> that is one of the features that would be handy
[14:46:29 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> not having to do if(logger.isDebugEnabled()) all over the place
[14:46:52 EDT(-0400)] <esm> yeah and it gets rid of the clumsyness associated with JCL hooking up with a concrete logging impl.
[14:47:31 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> now if log4j would ever get around to solidifying their jmx support
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