uPortal IRC Logs-2007-08-16

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[09:06:37 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> mornin
[09:07:37 EDT(-0400)] <esm> yup
[09:08:07 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> tryin out eclipse 3.3
[09:08:21 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> ran into a nice m2 eclipse bug
[09:08:29 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNGECLIPSE-231
[09:11:21 EDT(-0400)] <esm> looks like you need to get m2eclipse's trunk
[09:11:33 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> the stable dev snapshot works
[09:11:40 EDT(-0400)] <esm> cool
[09:11:42 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I'm just glad there is a fix
[09:11:55 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> but a nice fyi for ya
[09:12:13 EDT(-0400)] <esm> yeah thanks for the heads up
[09:12:36 EDT(-0400)] <esm> i've been so tired of fighting eclipse recently I'm planning on staying on 3.2.2 for a while
[09:13:09 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yeah ... I'm trying 3.3 just because of issues with 3.2
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[12:13:04 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> >< close to deploying 2.6
[12:13:10 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yay
[12:13:28 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> oh man, Drew hooked me up with the cascading GAP stuff
[12:13:33 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> Soooooooo nice.
[12:13:44 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> cascading GAP?
[12:13:54 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> We have to pull from ldap and then a data warehouse, which doesn't have uid, only emplid
[12:14:05 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> Groups
[12:14:18 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> ah
[12:14:24 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> it's not the stand alone GAP, but the new Springified personDirs
[12:14:27 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> so persondir?
[12:14:29 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yeah
[12:14:35 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> that is a neat feature
[12:14:40 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> my ugly ass SQL went away
[12:14:50 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> the DBAs don't hate me (as much) anymore
[12:14:52 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> life is good
[12:14:54 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> (smile)
[12:15:15 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> if they didn't hate me at least a little, I wouldn't be doing my job...
[12:15:53 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> my design guy hacked the crap out of the layout, and we're using the YUI Grids CSS stuff
[12:16:13 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> good-bye painful browser testing
[12:52:30 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> ok ... time for lunch
[12:52:40 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> oh man, I wish it was time for lunch here...
[13:27:01 EDT(-0400)] <apetro_work_desk> certainly not time for lunch here, but I already consumed my lunch this morning soon after walking in the door.
[13:27:17 EDT(-0400)] <apetro_work_desk> Who here is expecting to make it to the Fluid summit in Toronto?
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[13:30:00 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> yikes, that's soon
[13:30:07 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> ?
[13:30:13 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> the Fluid summit
[13:30:17 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/Fall+2007+Fluid+Summit
[13:30:17 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> ah (smile)
[13:30:20 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yeah
[13:30:26 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> just got my TR approved
[13:30:45 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> no way I could get travel for my design guy approved by that time
[13:31:01 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> I'll be lucky if I can get travel for the end of October approved
[13:31:09 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> :/
[13:31:20 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> HighEdWebDev
[13:31:23 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> great conference
[13:33:24 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> http://www.cracked.com/index.php?name=News&amp;sid=2312
[13:35:47 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> funny
[14:01:50 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> EricDalquist: the Logger stuff in the wiki to quiet Whirly is great
[14:02:04 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> (smile)
[14:02:27 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> I was having trouble following you the other day, but the whole "delete this, insert this" – that I can do
[14:03:08 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> (smile)
[14:19:40 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> pberry - just good enough to be better than a typing money
[14:19:54 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> maybe that can go in my review
[14:21:02 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> (smile)
[14:21:07 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> rough day?
[14:21:29 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> just going through dry-run deployments
[14:21:34 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> trying to catch things
[14:21:40 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> trying to document as I go
[14:21:55 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> if I ever have to type initportal again, it will be too soon
[14:22:05 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> and yet, I know there are at least 2 or 3 more today
[14:23:01 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> all the "portal" stuff is solid. now it's just the details. How is logging setup. Is tomcat configured the way I want? Did I make sure it's that way on all three servers
[14:23:06 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> do I understand rsync?
[14:23:12 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> you know, details (wink)
[14:27:07 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> here is a fun one:
[14:27:08 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> ERROR [http-443-Processor20] portlet.CPortletAdapter.[] Aug/16 11:26:26 - java.lang.IllegalStateException: invalidate: Session already invalidated
[14:27:08 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> java.lang.IllegalStateException: invalidate: Session already invalidated
[14:27:19 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> interesting
[14:27:32 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> happened right after a logout
[14:27:43 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> so, no harm really
[14:27:49 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> as the user is already gone
[14:34:51 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> I guess the portlet is trying to kill the session that the portal already killed?
[14:35:16 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> do you have two portlets from one web-app in the user's layout?
[14:51:02 EDT(-0400)] <lescour> yea..i'm sick of initportal too. getting the errors described on the mail list
[14:52:25 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> the portlet related ones?
[14:52:29 EDT(-0400)] <lescour> yea
[14:52:35 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> :/
[14:52:47 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> well I'm going to try and get a 2.6.1 release out in about 2 weeks
[14:53:02 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> which will address that issue and a few others that have come up
[14:53:27 EDT(-0400)] <lescour> Caused by: java.lang.RuntimeException: Unable to invoke the specified script: classpath://org/jasig/portal/container/deploy/deploy-portlet-app.crn
[14:54:04 EDT(-0400)] <lescour> ahh...there is a permission problem with bookmarks.properties
[15:09:19 EDT(-0400)] <lescour> um..that is unpossible
[15:11:23 EDT(-0400)] <lescour> under unbuntu, how is it possible for a process running as me to create a file owned by root
[15:21:41 EDT(-0400)] <lescour> there must be a logical explanation, but i'm going to pretend this didn't happen
[15:22:02 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> lol
[15:22:32 EDT(-0400)] <lescour> i logged out and then logged in
[15:22:42 EDT(-0400)] <lescour> and then i could complete initportal
[15:29:12 EDT(-0400)] <apetro_work_desk> lescour , if "me" is the initial Ubuntu account, then by default it has ability to sudo as root
[15:30:06 EDT(-0400)] <lescour> yes. but i didn't sudo to run initportal.
[15:31:17 EDT(-0400)] <lescour> somewhere i must have generated/copied the props file as root
[15:31:31 EDT(-0400)] <lescour> but i don't see where.
[15:40:13 EDT(-0400)] * lescour searches for setuid files
[15:43:36 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> lescour: what about tomcat, how was it started?
[15:43:53 EDT(-0400)] <lescour> it was sudo'd
[15:43:55 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> if you used sudo, then it will deploy the files owned as root
[15:44:00 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> I've been running into the same thing
[15:44:34 EDT(-0400)] <lescour> that has to be what happened
[15:45:22 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> yeah, it's kind of annoying. but what really needs to happen is that I use an init script that runs everything as a tomcat user
[15:45:39 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> and then setup sudo to let me run stuff as the tomcat user
[15:51:15 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> is there a quick way to knock the channel render messages out in Logger.props?
[15:51:18 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> handlers.LoggingEventHandler
[15:51:37 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> just go into portal.properties and disable stats logging
[15:58:38 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> so, lets pretend I'm a moron for just a minute. what's the statsContext.xml all about?
[15:58:51 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> oh ... maybe it is in there now
[15:58:57 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> it has been a while since I looked at stats
[15:59:19 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> It appears to have been Springified
[15:59:34 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> I do like the lemon-fresh scent it has now
[16:22:22 EDT(-0400)] * lescour likes the new uportal manual
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[16:59:59 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> it's pretty nice
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[17:01:08 EDT(-0400)] <lescour> ok..time to try out some cas
[17:02:04 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> uh-oh, looks like a twiki at columbia got porn spammed http://www.ja-sig.org/wiki/display/JSG/Home
[17:02:54 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> thanks for the catch
[17:02:56 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> reverting now
[17:03:12 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> just revert it
[17:03:37 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> done
[17:05:06 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> oh well
[17:05:20 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> wow, I have a write down what my "vision" for JA-SIG is.
[17:05:29 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> if it happens again I'll restrict edit of the front page to admins
[17:05:49 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> it did seem like an odd edit
[17:06:11 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> looks like the account was created just to spam
[17:06:15 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> http://www.ja-sig.org/wiki/display/~andrix
[17:06:15 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yup
[17:06:37 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> I just love people who abuse community resources
[17:08:53 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> all gone
[17:09:00 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I need to do a feature request to atlassian
[17:09:17 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> there needs to be a way in jira and confluence to delete a user and everything they have created
[17:11:38 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> A smite button, if you will
[17:17:48 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yup
[17:31:07 EDT(-0400)] <apetro_work_desk> and trace their IPs and go ahead and explode their computers
[17:31:15 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yup
[17:31:22 EDT(-0400)] * EricDalquist misses the days of winnuke
[17:34:52 EDT(-0400)] <lescour> eric, i have an email from our layout guy here that (i think) addresses the scrollbar issue.
[17:35:02 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> cool
[17:35:03 EDT(-0400)] <lescour> do you want me to forward it?
[17:35:17 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> sure ... is it enough that you could create a Jira issue?
[17:35:52 EDT(-0400)] <lescour> sure. i need to check and make sure the ga has the same css, as he reported it to me when using rc1
[17:36:19 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> thanks!
[17:41:59 EDT(-0400)] <lescour> do you see the scollbar problem in all major browsers?
[17:42:08 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I've never seen it
[17:42:13 EDT(-0400)] <lescour> my report only mentions firefox, but he's on a mac
[17:42:22 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yeah and I use ff on mac and linux
[17:45:03 EDT(-0400)] <lescour> ok. i won't be able to put this in until tomorrow
[17:45:06 EDT(-0400)] <lescour> i want to talk to him
[17:45:18 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> no problem
[17:45:54 EDT(-0400)] * lescour is very pleased the rubycas client worked without a hitch
[17:56:29 EDT(-0400)] <lescour> do i need a cert/ssl on uportal in order to cas'ify against the ja-sig cas?
[17:56:47 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> lescour: we have a rails plugin as well http://developer.csuchico.edu/svn/cas_login/
[17:57:38 EDT(-0400)] <lescour> how does yours differ from the other?
[17:58:15 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> ours is only for the 1.0 protocol (wink)
[18:00:17 EDT(-0400)] <lescour> aha!
[18:00:39 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> yeah, we're still on cas2
[18:00:51 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> and frankly, we like the simplicity
[18:02:04 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> in fact, we depend on that simplicity (wink)
[18:02:28 EDT(-0400)] <lescour> i'm hoping we can get something in place early this fall
[18:03:24 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> CAS has been incredibly important for web development on our campus
[18:03:56 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> Hearing from departments that implemented it without ever talking to me put such a smile on my face
[18:04:08 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> implemented authentication in their app of course...
[18:04:14 EDT(-0400)] <lescour> right
[18:04:31 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> "Hey, can we get a link in the portal? Here is our service url."
[18:04:34 EDT(-0400)] * pberry passes out
[18:06:26 EDT(-0400)] <lescour> lol
[18:09:26 EDT(-0400)] <lescour> ok..one more crack at this invalid_service and then i'm out of here
[18:13:50 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> Okay, I hate Oracle again.
[18:14:06 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> RedHat kernel patches...which means Oracle downtime...which means portal downtime.
[18:14:28 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> it's not just a reboot either, they have to relink all the oracle binaries every kernel install
[18:14:45 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> but, whatever
[18:17:03 EDT(-0400)] <lescour> i'm out...
[18:17:09 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> night
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