uPortal IRC Logs-2007-05-08

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[09:52:54 EDT(-0400)] <jayshao> our Sakai group uses Zones for a dev box... which is the limit of my knowledge of the feature
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[10:38:14 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> how goes the assemblies esm?
[10:38:58 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> esm: it's doubtful we'll ever touch the Solaris zones as Sun boxes are officially being purged from central IT
[10:40:26 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> right on...Yahoo is hiring an engineer to work on Firebug
[11:08:28 EDT(-0400)] <jayshao> EricDalquist - our Sakai group uses Zones for a dev box... which is the limit of my knowledge of the feature
[11:09:00 EDT(-0400)] <jayshao> sorry, esm rather
[11:09:05 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist>
[11:09:30 EDT(-0400)] <jayshao> vmware looks sexy
[11:09:36 EDT(-0400)] <jayshao> Fusion on the macbook is pretty good
[11:09:46 EDT(-0400)] <jayshao> should let you run the same images on your desktop and servers too
[11:13:01 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> now that's a nice testing platform
[11:30:10 EDT(-0400)] <esm> EricDalquist: waiting for a pluto committer to clean up permissions so I can put up a snapshot
[11:30:15 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> cool
[11:30:20 EDT(-0400)] <esm> i have the changes for uP sitting in my working copy
[11:30:34 EDT(-0400)] <esm> i just don't want to commit w/o having the snapshot available
[11:30:50 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> np
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[12:39:22 EDT(-0400)] <esm> http://code.google.com/p/polarrose-jetty-maven-deployer/
[12:39:27 EDT(-0400)] <esm> my jetty dream is coming true
[12:49:07 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> cool
[12:49:56 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I'm having fun learning spring webflow for a project
[12:49:59 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> that is some cool stuff
[12:52:39 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> The whole "Why use Spring" thread was "interesting"
[12:52:48 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> good thread
[12:53:13 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> It started with the potential to be very bad though... "Our stuff is small...why use it."
[12:53:17 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> Answer: You don't have to.
[12:53:19 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I like it when people ask questions like that
[12:53:23 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> and that is a good answer
[12:53:34 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> the it doesn't fit don't use it just because
[12:53:40 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> you need a compelling reason to do so
[12:53:45 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> I guess I've seen too many times when it's not an honest question, but somebody itching for a fight
[12:53:55 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> that is very true
[12:54:09 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> I roll a 20 for cynicism
[12:54:10 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> you just have to keep that in mind when answering
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[14:33:37 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Hi everyone. Quick question: has the process of deploying a portlet changed in uPortal 3? Do we just use ant deployPortletApp?
[14:34:05 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yes, you use the deployPortletApp target from the build.xml in the root directory
[14:34:24 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> btw, I haven't forgotten about your question with the GAP problem
[14:34:31 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Great.
[14:34:35 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I'll be getting to it as soon as I can
[14:34:48 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> I noticed that the M4 Quickstart doesn't have the deployPortletApp target.
[14:35:12 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Am I looking in the wrong spot?
[14:35:28 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> hrm
[14:35:46 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Sorry to bug you with all these questions; you've been a great help.
[14:38:14 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> according the tagged code in SVN there is a deployPortletApp target in the up3 build.xml
[14:38:26 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> I'll double check.
[14:40:10 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Found it. I was looking at the ant script in the root of the quickstart (which only had targets to start and stop tomcat). Inside the uPortal_3.0.0-M4 folder, there is indeed a build file with the necessary target.
[14:40:14 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Thank you!
[14:40:20 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> ah yeah
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[16:56:46 EDT(-0400)] <colinclar1> Hi again. So many questions. I'm a bit baffled by the process of deploying and publishing a portlet. So to confirm, I build my 168 portlet, then use deployPortletApp to deploy it. Then I fire up uP3, right? Is there any documentation that would guide me through the next steps?
[16:57:03 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> heh ... no there isn't
[16:57:13 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> remember that horrid UI I showed at the dev meeting?
[16:57:19 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> the portlet manager ...
[16:57:43 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> making a simple doc for that is on my todo as well and I'll see if I can move it up in the priorities
[16:58:59 EDT(-0400)] <colinclar1> Great. So we use the portlet manager. Shall I assume I should click the Manage Portlet Applications button?
[16:59:08 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yeah
[16:59:12 EDT(-0400)] <colinclar1> And if so, should I see my portlet listed there?
[16:59:27 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> so the steps are to first go through the manage portlet apps and publish a new portlet app
[16:59:40 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> awe crap and there is a bug in this process in the m4 release
[16:59:47 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> so it probably won't work
[16:59:48 EDT(-0400)] <colinclar1> Aha!
[17:00:08 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> grrr ... plus I'm leaving in 5 minutes to go look at a house
[17:00:10 EDT(-0400)] <colinclar1> LOL, that's cool. At least it's not us!
[17:00:13 EDT(-0400)] <colinclar1> No problem.
[17:00:15 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> oh no
[17:00:16 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> not you
[17:00:23 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> def. framework issues
[17:00:31 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> they are added to my list and I'll try and get to them tomorrow
[17:02:48 EDT(-0400)] <colinclar1> Thanks. If we can get a portlet up and running in uP3 soon, hopefully that will help me to have some kind of a flashy demo at the June JA-SIG conference.
[17:03:19 EDT(-0400)] <colinclar1> At the moment we're doing some AJAX toolkit evaluation. Our process is to build a simple portlet and a small UI component in each toolkit.
[17:03:21 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> cool
[17:03:33 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I'll probably have to tweak things a bit for you but I'll make sure we get you set up
[17:03:38 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> see you tomorrow
[17:03:39 EDT(-0400)] <colinclar1> We were hoping to use uP3 to host the portlet, since it's a lot cleaner that using Sakai for this.
[17:03:46 EDT(-0400)] <colinclar1> Thanks, Eric, I really appreciate it.
[17:03:51 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> no problem
[17:04:01 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> if you want to go real light weight there is always pluto 1.1 as well
[17:04:05 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> since that is what we use under the hood
[17:04:17 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> but time to run
[18:11:56 EDT(-0400)] <esm> yes, I would be doing development in pluto 1.1 to get yourself up and running at least
[18:12:13 EDT(-0400)] <esm> pluto 1.1 ships with a lightweight portal that can be used for development
[18:13:00 EDT(-0400)] <esm> it is much easier to stand up; it has much fewer dependencies.
[18:13:42 EDT(-0400)] <esm> since you are coding your portlet to the portlet API, you should be able to drop it into uP3 with no problem.
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