uPortal IRC Logs-2007-05-07

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Last updated: Oct 09, 2007Version comment

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[10:59:17 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> morning esm
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[11:12:41 EDT(-0400)] <esm> hey
[11:23:30 EDT(-0400)] <esm> EricDalquist: as soon as i get the pluto snapshot repo up i'll fix the assembler in trunk... and then get on to extracting the up3 api (which is halfway done)
[11:23:55 EDT(-0400)] <esm> i put in the ear assembler code in pluto trunk last night
[11:34:16 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> cool
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[11:47:48 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> ah ha!
[11:49:23 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> maybe no somebody can tell me about the mythical up26 quickstart
[11:49:30 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> err, now
[11:51:24 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> The download link https://sourcesup.cru.fr/frs/download.php/1323/uPortal_rel-2-6-0-M1-quick-start.zip sends back a 404 status
[11:52:18 EDT(-0400)] * pberry picks random name out of hat
[11:52:46 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> I blame Andrew Petro for this!
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[12:07:06 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I'd ask on the lists pberry, I know Andrew doesn't build the quickstarts for 2.X himself
[12:12:35 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> true.
[12:12:42 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> Maybe I should blame the French instead.
[12:12:51 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> hey now
[12:12:52 EDT(-0400)] * pberry picks another random name
[12:12:53 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> be nice
[12:13:17 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> you could also just email the uportal-user list and ask about the qs URL?
[12:13:18 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> I blame Nicolas Sarkozy for this!
[12:13:38 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> Clearly the presidential elections have created chaos in the IT world
[12:13:57 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> don't mind me. It's monday and I'm still fighting a week-long cold.
[12:39:12 EDT(-0400)] * pberry gives up and asks list for help
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[14:32:49 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Hey all. Dorky question: I've been trying to get the JA-SIG Confluence to send me a new password (yes, I forgot!) for the past few days with no luck. Anyone know if it's just me or if there is a problem?
[14:33:00 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> hrm
[14:33:05 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> let me check
[14:33:31 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> uhoh ... it looks like the email config is hosed
[14:33:32 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> hrm
[14:33:54 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> ok ... I guess I know what I'm looking into today
[14:34:00 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Sorry for the bother. Thanks for looking into it.
[14:34:08 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> no problem
[14:34:10 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> glad you brought it up
[14:34:19 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> I hate distractions like this.
[14:48:46 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> hey colinclark try the reset now
[14:49:19 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Great, thanks.
[14:49:29 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yup
[14:50:26 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> So we're still having trouble running uP3. Did mine/Joseph's last email help at all? We're using the latest version out of SVN, and pretty much following the same steps we went through at JHU.
[14:50:46 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yeah, now that I have that info I can look into it in more detail
[14:51:00 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I'll see what I can figure out this afternoon and let you know tomorrow morning
[14:51:34 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> you may want to try using the quickstart: http://uportal.org/release/allReleases.html
[14:51:47 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> 3.0.0-M4 was cut right before the dev meeting
[14:51:55 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Sure, no problem. Thanks for taking the time to look into it.
[14:51:55 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> so it is very close to what is in SVN right now
[14:52:02 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> no problem (smile)
[14:55:53 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> hey esm is there any way to know who 'owns' an artifact in the maven repo?
[14:56:16 EDT(-0400)] <esm> i think the groupid is as close as youget
[14:56:22 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> hrm
[14:56:28 EDT(-0400)] <esm> what are you trying to get at
[14:56:37 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I want to go bug someone to put a version of the portlet api jar in the repo that has the taglib in the jar
[14:56:47 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> it is REALLY annoying that it isn't in there
[14:57:06 EDT(-0400)] <esm> I believe some metadata gets put in META-INF, perhaps you can see who it was "built-by"
[14:57:21 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> ok
[14:57:26 EDT(-0400)] <esm> well, its probably unlikely that it will change
[14:57:46 EDT(-0400)] <esm> since anyone who needs the taglib has worked around it
[14:58:23 EDT(-0400)] <esm> but yeah unfortunatly you can't really trace that information very well
[14:58:52 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> would that maven evangalism group you mentioned be a good contact point?
[14:58:59 EDT(-0400)] <esm> yeah
[14:59:03 EDT(-0400)] <esm> let me dig that up
[15:02:11 EDT(-0400)] <esm> http://maven.apache.org/guides/mini/guide-maven-evangelism.html not very helpful
[15:02:18 EDT(-0400)] <esm> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MEV
[15:03:18 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> thanks
[15:06:40 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> any idea who evenisse is?
[15:06:45 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> that's the uid in the manifest
[15:07:01 EDT(-0400)] <esm> yeah
[15:07:13 EDT(-0400)] <esm> hes a core dev
[15:07:28 EDT(-0400)] <esm> try to ping him on #maven in irc.codehaus.org
[15:07:37 EDT(-0400)] <esm> he's there now
[15:07:44 EDT(-0400)] <esm> (dunno if he's active)
[15:08:58 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> pl
[15:08:59 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> ok
[15:14:04 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> how active is #maven and how ... pushy can I be about getting a fixed portlet api jar?
[15:14:13 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> (pluto should really be mastering that jar anyways)
[15:15:48 EDT(-0400)] <esm> um... it goes in fits and spurts as far as activity
[15:16:00 EDT(-0400)] <esm> it can get busy, one or three threads of conversation going at a time
[15:16:19 EDT(-0400)] <esm> i'd start by just re-asking your question, mentioning that evenisse did the packaging
[15:16:24 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> ah ok
[15:16:48 EDT(-0400)] <esm> i don't know how "pushy" but you can ask. They will probably redirect you to MEV
[15:17:03 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> (smile)
[15:17:12 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> what do you think about pluto mastering that JAR?
[15:17:16 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> since that is where the source lives
[15:17:24 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I can bring that up on the pluto list
[15:17:49 EDT(-0400)] <esm> yeah, i think that makes sense. I think the real key issue is the reproducablity of the builds
[15:18:00 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> ?
[15:18:22 EDT(-0400)] <esm> if i've already worked around the taglib issue, adding it to the jar later may impact my build
[15:18:40 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> ah
[15:18:43 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yeah
[15:18:46 EDT(-0400)] <esm> that is the pushback i think you will receive from the maven community
[15:18:59 EDT(-0400)] <esm> is that "yes, it is broken" but fixing it will break even more people.
[15:19:04 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> the problem of a 'buggy' jar with a version number that we don't control
[15:19:15 EDT(-0400)] <esm> well, that is the other question.
[15:19:23 EDT(-0400)] <esm> what version number do you put on the portlet api jar.
[15:19:34 EDT(-0400)] <esm> is it the version of the api or is it the version of the artifact
[15:20:12 EDT(-0400)] <esm> some of these issues may be being addressed in jsr 277 but it isn't here today (smile)
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[15:21:17 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquis1> I think I'll bring this up on the pluto list as well
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[16:29:11 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquis1> anyone in here with a MacBook [Pro] that needs memory?
[16:30:48 EDT(-0400)] <esm> what is the max that they can take
[16:31:12 EDT(-0400)] <esm> i'm getting a new one w/ 3Gb.. but if they can take more...
[16:31:18 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquis1> 3GB is the max
[16:31:36 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquis1> just found a deal on 1GB dimms for $55 - $20 rebate
[16:31:42 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> nice!
[16:31:44 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquis1> so I'm going from 1.25 to 2
[16:40:22 EDT(-0400)] <esm> hey pberry: do you have any experience with solaris zoning?
[16:40:48 EDT(-0400)] <esm> (or anyone else here for that matter)
[16:41:03 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> I zone out when people mention Solaris. Does that help? (wink)
[16:41:48 EDT(-0400)] <esm> ahahaha
[16:41:53 EDT(-0400)] <esm> yes!
[16:42:15 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> Ah, a "virtualization feature" in Solaris 10
[16:42:32 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> Well, isn't the 'V' word getting a lot of use this year...
[16:42:33 EDT(-0400)] <esm> yeah (smile) we are thinking about using it
[16:42:37 EDT(-0400)] <esm> yeah
[16:42:45 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> I still don't have friggin' VMware instances to play with here...
[16:43:32 EDT(-0400)] <esm> me neither. my buddy loves vmware, but he's on a windows platform so i don't know it translates to *nix
[16:43:39 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> I wonder if CAS would do well in a VMWare image, moving from node to node as needed
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