uPortal IRC Logs-2011-10-20

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[10:04:05 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> turning off uPortal svn commit access

[10:08:12 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> and svn2git is running ...

[12:17:07 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> The uPortal git repository is live: https://github.com/Jasig/uPortal

[12:17:27 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> now to get the git->svn updating working (tongue)

[15:15:12 CDT(-0500)] <athena> hey EricDalquist: just added new jquery mobile and fluid releases to the resource server

[15:15:19 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> great

[15:15:24 CDT(-0500)] <athena> you want me to cut a release, or should we hold off?

[15:15:34 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> do you need it for something?

[15:15:39 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> if not hold off a little bit

[15:15:48 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> I want to see if I can find some time to tweak the maven plugin

[15:15:52 CDT(-0500)] <athena> well, i'd like to get uportal configured against them

[15:15:56 CDT(-0500)] <athena> but we can always use the snapshot version

[15:16:03 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> yeah

[15:16:06 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> lets just do that for now

[15:16:09 CDT(-0500)] <athena> sure thing (smile)

[15:16:14 CDT(-0500)] <athena> i'll just run an mvn deploy

[15:16:16 CDT(-0500)] <athena> should be all good

[15:16:23 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> (smile)

[15:16:30 CDT(-0500)] <athena> thanks for all the git work

[15:16:34 CDT(-0500)] <athena> read through documentation yesterday

[15:16:39 CDT(-0500)] <athena> hoepfully will figure out what i'm doing (tongue)

[15:16:45 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> (smile)

[15:16:52 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> yeah it will be a learning curve for all

[15:16:56 CDT(-0500)] <athena> totally

[15:17:10 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> I need to start a thread about prefered dev model too

[15:17:15 CDT(-0500)] <athena> do we have documentation on how to switch other projects over?

[15:17:16 CDT(-0500)] <athena> ahh

[15:17:24 CDT(-0500)] <athena> for now should i just follow the workflow you linked to?

[15:19:10 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> yeah, though for those of us with commit access I don't think we need to fork

[15:19:23 CDT(-0500)] <athena> ah, gotcha

[15:19:25 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> just follow the branch/work/merge style

[15:19:35 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> we have some svn 2 git docs

[15:19:47 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> and I'll be collecting all my notes to get it flushed out

[15:19:54 CDT(-0500)] <athena> cool

[15:24:49 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> just waiting on contegix to get gitsvn installed

[15:25:01 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> and then I can finish getting the git->svn mirroring setup

[15:35:39 CDT(-0500)] <athena> niced

[16:07:44 CDT(-0500)] <athena> should the functional tests portlet's cache control test sometimes send back a 304 not modified?

[16:07:46 CDT(-0500)] <athena> seems like it should

[16:08:02 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> not sure, I'd have to look or ask nick

[16:09:04 CDT(-0500)] <athena> if he's around at some point this week it might be good to catch up on that stuff

[16:48:44 CDT(-0500)] <athena> in the meantime sending an email summarizing what i think i'm seeing

[16:48:51 CDT(-0500)] <athena> what's our status on being able to do HTML5?

[16:48:55 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> sounds good

[16:48:56 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> never (tongue)

[16:49:05 CDT(-0500)] <athena> so . . . uhhhh (smile)

[16:49:10 CDT(-0500)] <athena> we may actually need to figure that out

[16:49:13 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> realistically portlets will never let us do html5

[16:49:24 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> unless EVERY html5 portlet renders valid html5

[16:49:30 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> the whole page will fail to render

[16:49:33 CDT(-0500)] <athena> yeah, i remember talking about this some before

[16:49:40 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> so ... yeah

[16:49:43 CDT(-0500)] <athena> so why does it fail if one doesn't due HTML5?

[16:50:00 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> because html5 requires structurally valid XML if I remember correctly

[16:50:06 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> so if one portlet screws that up

[16:50:11 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> the browser barfs

[16:50:22 CDT(-0500)] <athena> does it have to be valid HTML5 or just valid XML?

[16:50:34 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> I'm not sure

[16:50:47 CDT(-0500)] <athena> can't we just ship with portlets that work? (smile)

[16:51:06 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> essentially our best bet would be to really dig into the portlet APIs support for portal<->portlet content type communication

[16:51:26 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> and go through and make all our jasig portlets correctly declare that they support the html5 content type

[16:51:40 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> and then the portal can render a html5 theme if every portlet on the page declares support for it

[16:51:50 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> and if not we have to fall back to something other than html5

[16:51:57 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> though I think you could still render the html5 theme

[16:52:04 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> and just set content type to something like text/html

[16:52:07 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> its really gross

[16:52:19 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> and a fairly significant amount of work

[16:52:24 CDT(-0500)] <athena> i think we are going to need to start supporting html5, particularly for mobile

[16:52:29 CDT(-0500)] <athena> so perhaps umobile can help out with it

[16:52:34 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> yeah

[16:52:40 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> well umobile will be easier

[16:52:45 CDT(-0500)] <athena> so what does every single portlet need to support HTML5?

[16:52:47 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> sicne you only ever have 1 portlet at a time on a page

[16:52:58 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> every portlet rendered on the page needs to support it

[16:53:07 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> or it could render output that isn't valid

[16:53:11 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> and make the browser barf

[16:53:34 CDT(-0500)] <athena> that's only true if there's content that's valid HTML4 that's not valid in HTML5, right?

[16:53:56 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> or if there is structurally invalid content I believe

[16:54:24 CDT(-0500)] <athena> does look like there's a distinction between HTML5 and XHTML5

[16:54:37 CDT(-0500)] <athena> perhaps we'd be in better shape w/ the non-XHTML version?

[16:54:40 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> yeah

[16:54:45 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> its worth a try (smile)

[16:54:52 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> it has been a long while since I played with it

[16:55:09 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> crap have to run