uPortal IRC Logs-2009-03-12

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Last updated: Mar 12, 2009Version comment
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[08:24:06 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> JASIGLogBot, fix JIRA!
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[08:27:05 EDT(-0400)] <athena> dstn: the logbot isn't lassie, you know (smile)
[08:27:23 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> lies
[08:27:27 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> it's fixed now
[08:27:33 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> ok j/k
[08:28:05 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> I would like to think I could issue a command to it
[08:32:44 EDT(-0400)] <athena> lol
[08:32:49 EDT(-0400)] <athena> that would be pretty cool
[08:35:15 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> soooo given this has been like this for a while, I'm not sure if Jasig is aware that their page shows up weird in my Firefox 3
[08:35:19 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> http://i39.tinypic.com/zslogh.png
[08:35:50 EDT(-0400)] <athena> oh weird - it doesn't do that on my machine
[08:37:11 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.0.7) Gecko/2009030422 Ubuntu/8.10 (intrepid) Firefox/3.0.7
[08:45:42 EDT(-0400)] <athena> report it to jasig i guess?
[08:47:51 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> ya...who?
[08:48:03 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> guess I could go look
[08:54:13 EDT(-0400)] * dstn says reported
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[09:18:48 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> EricDalquist, jasig jira is down
[09:18:53 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> k
[09:19:08 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> well, not down but hanging at connecting
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[09:22:54 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> should be fixed
[09:25:57 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> EricDalquist, works, thanks
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[11:09:02 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> So I think uportal-impl tests should define its own dataSourceContext.xml. If you add additional datasource elements to the main datasourceContext.xml the tests fail as they try to use the test rdbm.properties to resolve properties in the context file but they don't exist and it doesn't make sense to add those additional properties to test rdbm.properties
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[12:44:02 EDT(-0400)] <SusanB> looking for uPortal javadoc in the cloud... The maven reports at http://developer.jasig.org/projects/uportal/2.5/maven-reports.html have javadoc but I don't see them for 3.0 or 3.1. Is there another place to look?
[12:47:35 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i'm not sure susan, but you can generate them locally by running "mvn javadoc:javadoc" from the root of the project
[12:48:47 EDT(-0400)] <SusanB> hi Jen. right - did that. Is the coninous build site supposed to be up to date?
[12:49:08 EDT(-0400)] <athena> no idea
[12:51:29 EDT(-0400)] * holdorph goes back to search the uportal-dev list for eric/scotts email
[12:52:56 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> well this seems to be the link
[12:52:58 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> http://developer.jasig.org/bamboo/browse/UP
[12:53:11 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> but i don't see the maven site builds linked anywhere from it
[12:58:22 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i know we're running a nightly build, but i'm not sure it's really doing much besides just making sure it still compiles
[12:59:29 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> hopefully it's just a lack of configuration or something, but i'm not very impressed with the bamboo site
[12:59:40 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> i would expect it could probably do more
[12:59:47 EDT(-0400)] <athena> yeah
[12:59:53 EDT(-0400)] <athena> we don't really have it doing anything interesting
[13:00:06 EDT(-0400)] <athena> life will be a lot better when someday we actually have a real live nightly build
[13:01:29 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> what's with the color coding on this page
[13:01:30 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> http://developer.jasig.org/bamboo/build/viewBuildLog.action?buildNumber=30&amp;buildKey=UP-31PATCHES
[13:01:45 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> all of the 'red' sections are just simple INFO prints.
[13:03:25 EDT(-0400)] <athena> red?
[13:03:44 EDT(-0400)] <athena> ah, i see them now
[13:04:06 EDT(-0400)] <athena> weird
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[17:14:39 EDT(-0400)] * EricDalquist is fried from just driving to chicago and back
[17:17:53 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> is that a 2, 2.5 hour drive one way?
[17:18:11 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yeah about 2:20 from my house to OHare
[17:18:52 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> would be closer to 2:00 but there is about 20 miles of 45mph construction zone
[17:18:53 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> yeah, 5 hours of driving gets old. unless of course it's driving from phoenix to vegas, in which case it's ok.
[17:19:05 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> and lots of police looking to give out $400 tickets
[17:19:15 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> it's the drive home from vegas that takes forever.
[17:19:16 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> hah
[17:21:07 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> did you see the logs yet, of Susan asking about the javadocs? the more general question was is the nightly build/bamboo server, creating the maven site stuff anywhere?
[17:21:27 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> no, still catching up on email
[17:21:33 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> an no nightly site build yet
[17:21:37 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> just need to get around to in
[17:21:38 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> it
[17:21:44 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> scott already figured out how to do it for cas
[17:24:09 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> so while reading the logs ... if anyone here is interested in helping setup additional builds in Bamboo just let me know and I can give you access ....
[17:24:40 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> http://developer.jasig.org/projects/uportal/
[17:24:49 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> there is a list of all the maven generated sites for uportal
[17:25:46 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> http://developer.jasig.org/projects/uportal/3.1.0-M2/
[17:25:59 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> if you click on the modules names you get 404's
[17:26:33 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> uhg
[17:26:38 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I hate the maven site plugin
[17:34:12 EDT(-0400)] <athena> so i made a little google translation widget
[17:34:15 EDT(-0400)] <athena> it actually is kind of cool
[17:34:23 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i'm not sure where the best place to put this is
[17:34:45 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i think it would be kind of cool to have a portlet of google tools - search, maps, translation, etc.
[17:34:56 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> wheni was working on the GSOC suggestions, I was thinking close to the same lines
[17:35:14 EDT(-0400)] <athena> ah (smile)
[17:35:22 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> not necessarily google tools portlet, but one portlet web application, that contained several of the smaller 'tool' type portlets
[17:35:35 EDT(-0400)] <athena> yeah
[17:35:44 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> like calculator, stock ticker, unit conversion, loan calculator, etc. could all get packaged together
[17:35:50 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> we could do the same with a google package
[17:36:06 EDT(-0400)] <athena> maybe start w/ the really easy google tools and add to it?
[17:36:23 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i know we have the google portlet in googlecode, but that's just so clean and simple right now
[17:36:31 EDT(-0400)] <athena> which is really kind of a benefit in some ways
[17:36:31 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> like generalize the googleportlet that exists now, to be a application with many portlets, one of them being search
[17:36:38 EDT(-0400)] <athena> yeah
[17:36:44 EDT(-0400)] <athena> add some spring config options?
[17:36:44 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> +1
[17:36:58 EDT(-0400)] <athena> is this something that would be worth me starting a little project in the jasig sandbox?
[17:37:04 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> i'd be willing to move the google portlet to jasig incubation, now that the process is just about worked out.
[17:37:08 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yes
[17:37:18 EDT(-0400)] <athena> cool
[17:37:48 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i really would be willing to get something started - maybe start with the code you wrote holdorph and pull it into a spring mvc portlet format?
[17:37:57 EDT(-0400)] <athena> is that kind of what you guys had in mind?
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[17:38:15 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> sure
[17:38:35 EDT(-0400)] <athena> how does that sound to you, holdorph?
[17:39:02 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> if we're going to have multiple portlets that could benefit from the configuration, sure
[17:39:17 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> it seemed like a lot of overhed for just the google search portlet by itself.
[17:39:23 EDT(-0400)] <athena> yeah i completely agree
[17:39:29 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i really like the google portlet how it's implemented
[17:39:42 EDT(-0400)] <athena> but i could see gaining some advantage from spring if we're bringing in multiple tools
[17:39:48 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> yup
[17:40:12 EDT(-0400)] <athena> also there's a lot more configurability to that google widget now - you can include different kinds of search (web, news, blogs, etc.)
[17:40:23 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> nothing frustrates me more then wanting dependency injection and not already having the infrastructure for it setup.
[17:40:30 EDT(-0400)] <athena> lol
[17:40:31 EDT(-0400)] <athena> yeah
[17:40:52 EDT(-0400)] <athena> maybe i could throw something quick together and we could get input from the list about what low-overhead things we could add?
[17:41:19 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> oh, that's something I forgot to add to the GSOC page. another portlet mode for administrator level config.
[17:41:39 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> i think it's either EDIT_DEFAULTS, or CONFIG, i'd have to look in the spec to remember for certain
[17:42:17 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> CONFIG
[17:42:24 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> we actually had that in 2.6 at UW
[17:42:37 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I didn't bother porting it forward when we upgraded but would love to see it again
[17:42:38 EDT(-0400)] <athena> ooh i remember one of those portlets, eric
[17:42:40 EDT(-0400)] <athena> that would be cool
[17:42:49 EDT(-0400)] <athena> super cool
[17:42:49 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> it would be much easier not doing it in CChannelManager
[17:43:00 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> then also support EDIT_DEFAULTS
[17:43:10 EDT(-0400)] <athena> well, i'm really hoping we can get this up-2047 stuff over soon
[17:43:22 EDT(-0400)] <athena> basically we're waiting for the groups and categories javascript to get written
[17:43:23 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> so if a user subscribes to a portlet that implements EDIT_DEFAULTS the portlet can render a subscribe-time configuration UI
[17:43:33 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i kind of hate to commit it until you can actually use it to create a portlet
[17:43:42 EDT(-0400)] <athena> nice
[17:44:58 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i think we could conceivably have a fluid-powered twitter portlet, too
[17:45:11 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i took the code colin wrote and tested out all of eric's ajax controller stuff on it
[17:45:17 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> i'll add that, if it's not already there, i'm editing the page
[17:48:33 EDT(-0400)] <athena> cool
[17:48:44 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> either Eric or athena care if I move the top section of that page to the bottom?
[17:48:52 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> feel free
[17:48:54 EDT(-0400)] <athena> cool with me
[17:49:04 EDT(-0400)] <athena> by the way, i really liked your reformatting
[17:49:07 EDT(-0400)] <athena> feels a little easier to read
[17:49:13 EDT(-0400)] <athena> need to respond to that admin thread still
[17:49:56 EDT(-0400)] <athena> the code unicon's sitting on actually does a bunch of what was proposed, but it seemed like people really wanted it in uportal rather than as a separate portlet
[17:53:22 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> uportal's current user admin is soooo bad, but it never gets worked on, because most everyone manages users outside of the portal.
[17:54:57 EDT(-0400)] <athena> well, also it'd be nice to have a way to potentially administer non-local accounts
[18:00:20 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> anyone know what jim's confluence id is?
[18:00:42 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> jwhelig maybe?
[18:01:25 EDT(-0400)] <athena> look like jimhelwig
[18:01:50 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> yup
[18:06:18 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> ok, there's one pass at it. could probably be improved some, but, at least there's not two competing formats any more.
[18:06:23 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> http://www.ja-sig.org/wiki/display/UPC/Mentorable+Projects
[18:08:33 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> looks great
[18:08:48 EDT(-0400)] <athena> thanks!
[18:09:01 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i better head out - meeting friends to see watchmen
[18:09:17 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> have fun
[18:09:17 EDT(-0400)] <athena> maybe pull some google stuff together later tonight
[18:09:24 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> sounds good
[18:10:33 EDT(-0400)] <athena> take care guys
[18:26:13 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> something about the socghop.appsot.com site, just freezes my browser periodically
[18:26:22 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> :/
[18:27:32 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> hmm.... need to add 'easy', 'medium' or 'hard' to all the ideas.
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[22:47:27 EDT(-0400)] <jayshao> anyone mind if I edit the SoC projects?
[22:47:38 EDT(-0400)] <jayshao> or do people have real ownership attachment to specific proposals?
[22:47:39 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> go ahead
[22:47:45 EDT(-0400)] <jayshao> e.g. separate Gadget/OpenSocial
[22:47:52 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> what do you have in mind?
[22:47:53 EDT(-0400)] <jayshao> since the scope on the 2nd is much bigger than the first
[22:48:05 EDT(-0400)] <jayshao> e.g. make uPortal a OpenSocial container - bridge Shindig?
[22:48:07 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yeah, feel free. just send out a note about what you've changed
[22:48:20 EDT(-0400)] <jayshao> where's ground zero? dev list? or IRC?
[22:49:15 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> probably that direct email thread thats been going on
[22:49:23 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> or board/steering committee
[22:49:29 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> since they are doing the coordination
[22:57:50 EDT(-0400)] <jayshao> k. this is an interesting list
[22:57:56 EDT(-0400)] <jayshao> we should do this kind of brainstorming more often
[23:29:24 EDT(-0400)] <athena> yeah, it's really nice to list out those ideas
[23:29:39 EDT(-0400)] <athena> it'd be kind of nice to have a running list of proposed projects
[23:29:58 EDT(-0400)] <athena> our projects just work better when they're planned collaboratively from the beginning