uPortal IRC Logs-2011-08-08

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[10:47:11 CDT(-0500)] <athena> hey EricDalquist - just wondered if you had a few minutes today to talk about some timeline/planning-ish things
[10:47:18 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> sure
[10:47:24 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> I'm working on a status update email right now
[10:47:28 CDT(-0500)] <athena> oh terrific
[10:47:39 CDT(-0500)] <athena> suspect that'll cover a bunch of it (smile)
[10:47:50 CDT(-0500)] <athena> also just wondered if the stats db redesign was still planned for 4.0
[10:48:01 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> maybe
[10:48:04 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> that is part of the email
[10:48:07 CDT(-0500)] <athena> ok, terrific
[10:48:10 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> right now stats pretty much aren't existant
[10:48:13 CDT(-0500)] <athena> i'll just wait for the email then (smile)
[10:48:22 CDT(-0500)] <athena> maybe that's something coop dev can help out with
[10:48:37 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> so I'm going to outline an email option where we release 4.0 GA without stats
[10:48:44 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> and plan on including it ina 4.0.x
[10:48:48 CDT(-0500)] <athena> gotcha
[10:48:51 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> since that shouldn't affect binary compatibiltiy
[10:48:52 CDT(-0500)] <athena> yeah
[10:48:56 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> just disable stats DB creation and everything
[10:49:04 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> and I'm hoping that won't be a block for adopters
[10:49:05 CDT(-0500)] <athena> to be honest, that might not be a terrible idea
[10:49:06 CDT(-0500)] <athena> yeah
[10:49:19 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> since you shouldn't need stats when starting a migration or new implementation
[10:49:21 CDT(-0500)] <athena> would let people who don't care just go ahead with their release planning
[10:49:24 CDT(-0500)] <athena> yeah
[10:49:24 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> just so we can get this GA out asap
[10:49:30 CDT(-0500)] <athena> that sounds pretty reasonable to me
[10:51:31 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> I've just been working on data import testing
[10:51:38 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> I have a bunch of data sets to work against
[10:51:39 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> good stuff
[10:51:42 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> just takes a long time
[10:51:42 CDT(-0500)] <athena> terrific (smile)
[10:51:45 CDT(-0500)] <athena> yeah i'm sure
[10:58:44 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> yeah unfortunatly I spent most of my coding time this weekend working on jsr107
[10:58:48 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> which is good I guess
[10:58:52 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> just no enough time to go around
[10:59:03 CDT(-0500)] <athena> yeah, no kidding
[10:59:07 CDT(-0500)] <athena> i'm feeling pretty behind myself
[11:18:56 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> email sent
[11:23:49 CDT(-0500)] <athena> woo, thanks(smile)
[11:35:01 CDT(-0500)] <holdorph> EricDalquist: where in the spec does it say public render parameters are optional? I read through 11.1.2 but didn't see it there.
[11:36:49 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> so they are "supported"
[11:36:57 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> in that when portlet A sets one portlet A sees it
[11:37:05 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> but we're not sharing them across portlets at all
[11:37:11 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> "It is up to the portal implementation to decide which portlets may share the same public render parameters"
[11:37:20 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> page 80
[11:37:26 CDT(-0500)] <holdorph> yeah, i saw that
[11:37:39 CDT(-0500)] <holdorph> but that's cutting it pretty fine line
[11:37:43 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> yup
[11:37:46 CDT(-0500)] <holdorph> if i saw another product doing that
[11:37:55 CDT(-0500)] <holdorph> i'd have a lot of BAD things to say about that product
[11:38:00 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> (smile)
[11:38:15 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> as always if you can find resources to help me get that implemented in the next week that would be great (wink)
[11:38:43 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> but we have to get to a point where we decide what is and is not going to make it into the GA so we actually get a release out the door
[11:38:50 CDT(-0500)] <holdorph> i understand the resource issue. It's mostly just the language i was speaking about
[11:40:01 CDT(-0500)] <holdorph> in your email you said: "Public render parameter support is missing, this is an optional part
[11:40:01 CDT(-0500)] <holdorph> of the spec"
[11:40:06 CDT(-0500)] <holdorph> i don't believe that's true
[11:40:17 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> right, that is poorly phrased
[11:40:23 CDT(-0500)] <holdorph> what you said here on irc, is it's not optional, we have implemented it, just in a certain way
[11:43:24 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> just replied to the thread clarifying
[11:44:05 CDT(-0500)] <holdorph> ok.
[13:11:49 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> I think after this jsr work I'm going to have ICLAs on file with every major java related company (tongue)
[13:12:03 CDT(-0500)] <athena> lol
[13:12:47 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> seriously, like every other week there is another one
[13:13:01 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> and the stupid thing is all the spec related code is under Apache 2
[13:13:17 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> so its essentially just a bunch of CYA stuff
[13:36:04 CDT(-0500)] <athena> hmm, getting an initdb error
[13:36:05 CDT(-0500)] <athena> http://pastebin.com/hS70sL8Z
[13:36:40 CDT(-0500)] <athena> any ideas EricDalquist?
[13:36:46 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> huh?
[13:36:53 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> looks up from keyboard
[13:37:12 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> hrm
[13:37:37 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> this is latest trunk?
[13:37:59 CDT(-0500)] <athena> yeah
[13:38:05 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> so PortalShell:76 binds the "logger" variable to make it available
[13:38:15 CDT(-0500)] <athena> ooh
[13:38:18 CDT(-0500)] <athena> you know, i may have conflicts
[13:38:22 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> (tongue)
[13:38:26 CDT(-0500)] <athena> let me get those sorted first
[13:38:31 CDT(-0500)] <athena> though that seems like a weird error to get as a result
[13:38:40 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> yes
[13:38:41 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> it does
[13:39:51 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> back in a few min
[13:48:28 CDT(-0500)] <athena> huh.
[13:48:33 CDT(-0500)] <athena> no idea what the issue is, but working now
[13:48:37 CDT(-0500)] <athena> maybe deleting the data dir did it?
[13:48:39 CDT(-0500)] <athena> whatever.
[13:52:24 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> very very weird
[13:55:31 CDT(-0500)] <athena> totally.
[13:55:38 CDT(-0500)] <athena> so long as it doesn't come back i guess i don't care . . .