uPortal IRC Logs-2009-05-19

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Last updated: May 19, 2009Version comment
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[10:09:42 EDT(-0400)] <invisibill> Greetings uPortal devs: I'm running uPortal 3.1 and the fragment administration view has stopped working during the course of our customizations. I enabled DEBUG mode for the uPortal.war but am have an issue trying to hunt down why the portlet doesn't load: http://uportal.pastebin.com/m261373bc
[10:10:09 EDT(-0400)] <invisibill> Does this error look familiar enough to anyone to help me locate the cause? thanks.
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[11:58:12 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> athena: is the new portlet managed published by default in trunk?
[11:58:23 EDT(-0400)] <athena> yeah
[11:58:29 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> just found it (smile){color}
[11:58:32 EDT(-0400)] <athena> though come to think of it, it may not have the right permissions
[11:58:34 EDT(-0400)] <athena> we shoudl fix that
[11:58:52 EDT(-0400)] <athena> glad you found it though
[11:58:57 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i'm working on the preferences support now
[11:59:24 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> cool
[12:00:10 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> just found an issue with search
[12:00:26 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> if you're on a page > 1 and search you get no results until you click back on page one
[12:00:46 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> that's a feature
[12:00:51 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> lol
[12:00:54 EDT(-0400)] <athena> lol
[12:01:00 EDT(-0400)] <athena> thanks, i'll get that fixed
[12:01:01 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> all searching should be done from page 1, it's just natural
[12:01:15 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i'll make sure the pager's data model is reset on search
[12:01:19 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> holdorph: you're always so helpful (wink)
[12:01:33 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> i try, i really do, try...... sometimes.
[12:01:41 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i think based on chats w/ gary we also wanted to change the current search behavior
[12:01:45 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> the drop-downs for publishing a portlet are wonderful
[12:02:09 EDT(-0400)] <athena> right now it searches within the current category - i think we'd talked about having any search operations automatically set the category back to "all"
[12:02:12 EDT(-0400)] <athena> good, i'm glad (smile)
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[12:02:38 EDT(-0400)] <athena> ooh, new parameters editing fluid component is working now
[12:02:48 EDT(-0400)] <athena> so basically i need to update it to add support for multi-valued preferences
[12:03:09 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> athena: You've written a component?
[12:03:11 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> (smile)
[12:03:21 EDT(-0400)] <athena> colinclark: several!
[12:03:26 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Amazing@
[12:03:27 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> !
[12:03:35 EDT(-0400)] <athena> that fluid component tutorial has been amazingly helpful
[12:03:37 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i really appreciated it
[12:03:41 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Awesome, I'm glad.
[12:03:51 EDT(-0400)] <athena> and really, it helped with both writing components and in understanding how fluid code works
[12:03:54 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i feel like i get it now
[12:04:08 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> (smile)
[12:04:24 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Wow, that's really amazing.
[12:04:26 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> I'm glad it helped.
[12:04:31 EDT(-0400)] <athena> yeah, definitely
[12:04:33 EDT(-0400)] <athena> they're not perfect
[12:04:36 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> I think you just made my day. (smile)
[12:04:37 EDT(-0400)] <athena> but they're good enough to be useful
[12:04:51 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i suspect if i knew more about the renderer they might be a little cleaner
[12:04:52 EDT(-0400)] <athena> aw, i'm glad (smile)
[12:05:22 EDT(-0400)] <athena> maybe i know enough that i could take a look at that flutter portlet someday
[12:05:29 EDT(-0400)] <athena> if i ever have free time again
[12:22:24 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> athena: That would be amazing.
[12:22:30 EDT(-0400)] <athena> yeah
[12:22:35 EDT(-0400)] <athena> the problem is that whole time thing
[12:22:40 EDT(-0400)] <athena> so we'll see!
[13:17:47 EDT(-0400)] <athena> EricDalquist: do we preserve the order of portlet preferences?
[13:17:56 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yes
[13:18:15 EDT(-0400)] <athena> ok
[13:18:23 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> well preferences themeselves don't matter much but we currently do
[13:18:27 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> values are ordered
[13:18:34 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> and that is specified by the portlet spec
[13:18:40 EDT(-0400)] <athena> ok
[13:18:51 EDT(-0400)] <athena> so really in addition to allowing users to add multi-valued preferences in the new portlet
[13:18:57 EDT(-0400)] <athena> we should allow them to reorder them?
[13:19:20 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> that would be neat
[13:19:37 EDT(-0400)] <athena> we could use the fluid reorderer for it - i don't see a problem with that (smile)
[13:19:44 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> that would be really neat
[13:19:44 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i'll at least add it to the to-do list
[13:20:09 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i'd like to make it a high-priority to get this portlet to the point where it's at least as good as the current channel
[13:20:14 EDT(-0400)] <athena> then we can start adding cool improvements
[13:20:38 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yeah
[13:20:42 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> that sounds like a good plan
[13:21:00 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> the new code looks so much better it should be a lot easier to improve upon
[13:21:27 EDT(-0400)] <athena> awesome, i'm glad
[13:21:38 EDT(-0400)] <athena> that's really kind of what i was hoping for
[13:21:46 EDT(-0400)] <athena> an improvement that we could build on
[13:42:06 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> EricDalquist question on UP-2418
[13:42:29 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> ok
[13:42:36 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> you closed it as fixed
[13:42:45 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I think it is fixed in trunk
[13:42:45 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> but I still see the original problem as i reported it
[13:42:51 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> at least in up 3.1
[13:42:53 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> branch
[13:42:58 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> hrm
[13:43:08 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> should be fixed there too
[13:43:12 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> maybe I didn't fix the right thing
[13:43:18 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> can you attach a screenshot?
[13:43:45 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> messsaged you a site to try out
[13:44:14 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> notice how on the 'groups' screen the 'checkbox' for everyone appears on the line above everyone
[13:46:01 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I think I just broke your channel manager
[13:46:04 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> not sure how though
[13:46:15 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> yeah, the portal just nose dived big time
[13:47:03 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> ah, permgen, forgot to up that.
[13:47:05 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> my fault
[13:48:37 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> np
[13:48:53 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I'm going to grab lunch
[13:48:59 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> if you could do a screenshot that would be great
[13:49:29 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> ok. i was just curious what you fixed.
[13:49:39 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> because nothing seems to have changed on those screens.
[13:50:10 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I thought I had changed the positioning of the checkboxes relative to the group names in the list
[13:55:10 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> screenshot attached. the site i messaged earlier is back up if you want to look at it yourself
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[14:14:31 EDT(-0400)] <athena> we don't have any model for supporting internationalization in CPDs do we?
[14:32:18 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> holdorph: I missed that check box
[14:32:23 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I had fixed the ones in the list below
[14:32:49 EDT(-0400)] <athena> do you think it's realistic it for us to someday have stats logging turned on by default?
[14:33:08 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yes
[14:33:26 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I think with some TLC the aggregator could be made generic
[14:33:28 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i'm thinking if we could count on it being available we could write some cool admin UI stuff (smile)
[14:33:34 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> and we could build it into uportal
[14:33:40 EDT(-0400)] <athena> yeah, that'd be really cool
[14:33:52 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> that's probably 2 weeks of work though
[14:33:52 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i mean we could even add some basic stats to the portlet admin portlet
[14:33:57 EDT(-0400)] <athena> gotcha
[14:34:06 EDT(-0400)] <athena> is there a ticket for that work?
[14:34:10 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> probably not
[14:34:26 EDT(-0400)] <athena> maybe worth creating
[14:34:31 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yeah
[14:34:39 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> it shouldn'
[14:34:46 EDT(-0400)] <athena> in part so that coop support subscribers have interesting tickets to vote on
[14:34:51 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> (smile)
[14:34:55 EDT(-0400)] <athena> besides the obvious planning aspects (smile)
[14:47:44 EDT(-0400)] <athena> ok EricDalquist, i'm close to having the preferences changes working
[14:47:51 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> cool
[14:48:03 EDT(-0400)] <athena> do we want to edit the CPDs accordingly though?
[14:48:16 EDT(-0400)] <athena> if we do that, i'd expect the existing channel manager to cease to be so useful
[14:49:04 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> well, we may be getting close to switching
[14:49:53 EDT(-0400)] <athena> yeah
[14:50:04 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i guess i'm hesitant to switch over the CPDs until we're ready to move over
[14:50:53 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> that's fine
[14:50:59 EDT(-0400)] <athena> ok
[14:51:23 EDT(-0400)] <athena> so you won't really be able to see this stuff until then
[14:55:24 EDT(-0400)] <athena> ugh
[14:55:31 EDT(-0400)] <athena> looks like parameters dont' get deleted
[14:55:56 EDT(-0400)] <athena> because the form is currently binding to the items in the map, if one is missing it just keeps its old value
[15:28:10 EDT(-0400)] <athena> yay, now the admin portlet actually warns you when you pick an already-in-use fname
[16:09:23 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yay
[16:09:33 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I was thinking it would be neat to have a fname service
[16:09:48 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> so it would auto-fill an fname for you based on what the name is and what is available
[16:09:57 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> again a future feture
[16:09:59 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> feature*
[16:18:39 EDT(-0400)] <athena> yeah i think that would be nice
[16:18:43 EDT(-0400)] <athena> and shouldnt' be too hard
[16:19:00 EDT(-0400)] <athena> for portlets we could guess something based on the portlet name that's already being auto-populated
[16:19:05 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yup
[16:19:18 EDT(-0400)] <athena> and if it's blank, we could do an ajax call when the title is typed in
[16:19:36 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> (smile)
[16:19:46 EDT(-0400)] <athena> just need to make sure it doesnt' execute for already-persisted portlets
[16:20:09 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yeah
[16:20:17 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i think eventually overhauling these admin portlets is going to be great
[16:20:23 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i don't know what other ones exist that need fixing
[16:20:34 EDT(-0400)] <athena> probably some sort of groups and permissions one?
[16:20:37 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yeah
[16:20:44 EDT(-0400)] <athena> at least that probably gets used less
[16:20:54 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> the next big one would be groups manager
[16:20:56 EDT(-0400)] <athena> in a real environment, given ldap and pags and such
[16:20:59 EDT(-0400)] <athena> yeah
[16:21:03 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> that gets used a lot by anyone that does local groups
[16:21:06 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> which is more than you think
[16:21:09 EDT(-0400)] <athena> ah, gotcha
[16:21:13 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> it would be great to re-visit that
[16:21:20 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> and add better delegated functionality
[16:21:28 EDT(-0400)] <athena> well, at least hopefully some of it can re-use that new entity selection flow?
[16:21:28 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> we would love that
[16:21:34 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> very likely
[16:21:43 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> this work is a huge step forward
[16:21:52 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> oh pluto 2.0 is being voted on for release right now
[16:21:58 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> so I might see about starting on that too
[16:22:05 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> probably post-vacation though
[16:26:32 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yay got the svnmerge data updated for 3.1
[16:26:40 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> now to sync up 3.0
[16:41:53 EDT(-0400)] <athena> oh yay
[16:42:20 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> going to see if I can finally get 3.1.1 and 3.0.4 out tonight
[16:42:32 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> going to just be sitting watching hockey for a few hours
[16:43:16 EDT(-0400)] <athena> ah
[16:43:53 EDT(-0400)] <athena> apparently both the boston hockey and basketball teams decided the playoffs weren't all that fun afterall and that they'd like to go home
[16:44:19 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> awe
[16:51:17 EDT(-0400)] <athena> ok, i think i should be able to check in fixed preferences tonight (smile)
[16:51:23 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> great
[17:09:41 EDT(-0400)] <athena> talk to you later
[17:09:52 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> have a good one
[17:09:57 EDT(-0400)] <athena> you too (smile)
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