[09:10:47 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> going to try to push a new build to Linux CI
[09:11:19 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> sweet
[09:17:34 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> I think 'warming' the cache should be pretty straight forward
[10:55:16 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> our new lickable reports UI… http://cl.ly/image/0W1O1o3E2q1v
[10:57:22 CDT(-0500)] <js70> looks good. easy to work with?
[10:57:29 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> so far
[10:57:31 CDT(-0500)] <js70> for a genius no doubt.
[10:57:43 CDT(-0500)] <js70> Asking the wrong person.
[10:57:49 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> i'm still a n00b w/r/t the actual cube design
[10:57:56 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> oh oh ive worked with cubes!
[10:57:59 CDT(-0500)] <JasonElwood> interesting
[10:58:00 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> cool
[10:58:11 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> I wrote an ETL for a star schema once
[10:59:02 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> have we looked into pentaho? its not the best tool but its free and I know a lot of enterprise places use it
[10:59:22 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> this is a UI on top of pentaho mondrian
[10:59:35 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> ahh cool
[10:59:55 CDT(-0500)] <js70> I say lets ship it. Anything to get out of the report writing business.
[10:59:57 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> i just whipped up a star and configured a schema on top of it w/ pentaho mondrian workbench
[11:00:08 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> then put saiku on top of that
[11:00:08 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> ive worked with pentaho, qlikview, BusinessObjects, and a few other BI tools
[11:00:14 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> but ironically enough not jasper
[11:00:25 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> saiku gives you a REST api and a default jquery front end
[11:00:29 CDT(-0500)] <js70> thats because its not a tool, is a torture device
[11:00:34 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> lol
[11:00:46 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> from what i was reading last night, jasper server is actually mondrian under the convers
[11:00:47 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> covers
[11:01:02 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> I do believe reading that jasper was outlawed by the geneva convention
[11:01:14 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> we're just using jasper as what amounts to a rendering engine tho. it's not doing any actual "reporting" work
[11:01:16 CDT(-0500)] <js70> :^)
[11:01:25 CDT(-0500)] <js70> true dat.
[11:01:47 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> ^^
[11:02:00 CDT(-0500)] <js70> its actually probably a nice tool, just not our implementation. and it is hard to see how the jasper markup will ever be easy.
[11:02:11 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> it's not for humans, to be sure
[11:02:41 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> talked with parker about how they used jasper on cccc(ccc)(c)
[11:02:47 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> they used server
[11:03:03 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> and they basically just point it at a db and turn an analyst loose
[11:03:42 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> it's up to him to set up the cube schema and stored queries, etc. sounds like bascially the same sort of stuff saiku+mondrian give you.
[11:04:02 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> … and definitely not at all like what we're currently doing
[11:05:15 CDT(-0500)] <tbain> Has anyone ever encountered the client side error: "Ext.Error: You are using a ServerProxy but have not supplied it with a url."? I'm getting this on my local dev when I try to open up early alerts for any of the students
[11:05:19 CDT(-0500)] <js70> yep, we're like the flintstones. We look like we have a car and the brontasaurus burger is delicious but the engine is our feet.
[11:05:30 CDT(-0500)] <js70> yep
[11:05:50 CDT(-0500)] <tbain> I get the impression I just stumbled into the middle of a very itneresting conversation...
[11:05:51 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> tbain when i've seen that i think it was a mismatched store name
[11:06:29 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> i.e. the name of the store injected into the controller wasn't the same as what was declared in app.js
[11:06:43 CDT(-0500)] <tbain> So would that be old javascript hanging around in tomcat then? The same functionality is working fine in the other environments
[11:06:50 CDT(-0500)] <js70> I've seen it. what Dan said. It can be as simple as the .js file is not named the smae as the store or the store name is a dupe.
[11:06:52 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> or perhaps it was a mismatched url name
[11:06:58 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> one of those two
[11:27:18 CDT(-0500)] <tbain> cleared my browser cache, deleted the (exploded) SSP war from my tomcat, and did a hard refresh and the issues still here just on my local dev - any other ideas? I was able to use the same student in one of the CI environments and load their early alerts just fine
[11:28:09 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> run with the non-minified js and figure out what component is being initialized when the error occurs.
[11:28:29 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> the compare its references to singleton components to the names of what's actually being initialized in app.js
[11:33:12 CDT(-0500)] <JasonElwood> Is somebody deleting students or changing coaching assignments on Linux CI? Some of my students in my caseload were deleted and others were re-assigned.
[11:34:12 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> not me
[11:35:45 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> not me
[11:36:31 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> I think it was Professor Plum
[11:37:00 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> i bet the starfish guys got ahold of the admin login
[11:37:12 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> Colonel Mustard was at the data center so it could not have been him
[11:37:27 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> I guess no one here has played clue
[11:37:35 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> pspaude have you been doing any testing in linux CI?
[11:37:35 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> or just didnt think it was funny
[11:37:51 CDT(-0500)] <JasonElwood> What's clue?
[11:38:10 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> The board game, and great movie starring Tim Curry
[11:38:17 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> i did like that movie
[11:38:24 CDT(-0500)] <pspaude> Yes, heavily yesterday and a bit this morning.
[11:38:49 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> pspaude might that explain the symptoms jason described above?
[11:38:54 CDT(-0500)] <pspaude> Didn't change any coaching assignements that I thought. I usualy test with people I added.
[11:39:39 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> JasonElwood, pspaude maybe you guys need to partition the test data between the two of you?
[11:39:40 CDT(-0500)] <pspaude> Yes, it might. I dont' remember if I deleted any though, usually don't as the more students etc. the better the testing.
[11:40:35 CDT(-0500)] <JasonElwood> I created a separate account for Paul on linux, and I'll do that same on Windows. And, I'm going to change the admin password on all EC2 envs
[11:41:06 CDT(-0500)] <pspaude> I find it weird I see some duplicates and other issues this morning? I use "unique" data that I know is mine?
[11:42:15 CDT(-0500)] <JasonElwood> That definitely raise a flag. if nobody has changed the data that I'm seeing along with Paul's issue, then I'm concerned about possible app issues
[11:42:36 CDT(-0500)] <JasonElwood> Paul- account info for Wins same as I provided in email
[11:42:53 CDT(-0500)] <pspaude> Okay, do I login to the uPortal with it or somehow else?
[11:43:01 CDT(-0500)] <JasonElwood> uPortal
[11:44:29 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> any chance you guys are being undone by the sync job?
[11:44:36 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> the person sync i mean
[11:44:55 CDT(-0500)] <JasonElwood> not deletes
[11:45:07 CDT(-0500)] <JasonElwood> and I doubt assignments since they have been there for months
[11:45:34 CDT(-0500)] <pspaude> Cool, I'll check the server again and make sure I just didn't add two students with same name, but I usually don't. I was mostly adding students yesterday not deleting or re-assigning.
[11:48:06 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> I can see reassignment perhaps creating zombie students
[11:48:13 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> but not accidentally deleting them
[11:51:16 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> when you say 'deleted' you're talking about the object status actually being set to deleted?
[11:52:20 CDT(-0500)] <JasonElwood> The record I checked, Steve Kanoy, is no longer in person
[11:52:44 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> zow
[11:54:23 CDT(-0500)] <pspaude> Okay, don't worry about my duplicates. I think that might have been from one I added when the servers were acting up and I forgot about it.
[12:02:23 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> JasonElwood that is truly bizarre (Steve Kanoy)
[12:02:39 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> as far as i know there just isn't any hard-delete code in the app itself
[12:03:21 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> but am double checking that
[12:07:03 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> i only see it being called from test cases
[12:07:19 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> well
[12:07:21 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> which is amazing to me because spring will automatically roll back for junit tests with an annotation
[12:07:45 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> the dao-level deletes really are hard deletes. and they're mostly ever used in tests. but also in student intake
[12:08:21 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> these look safe but the PersonFundingSource mappings are possibly suspicious
[12:08:28 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> the comments lie
[12:08:32 CDT(-0500)] <JasonElwood> there may be another, but I don't remember all the students that were in my list
[12:09:20 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> oh yikes
[12:09:35 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> @Cascade( )
[12:09:45 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> may override
[12:09:51 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> updatable = false
[12:11:24 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> not sure on the semantics of PERSIST either. does that include delete?
[12:11:29 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> i would have thought not
[12:11:51 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> the other two hard deletes in intake are
[12:12:06 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> PersonEducationLevel
[12:12:06 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> and
[12:12:14 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> PersonChallenge
[12:12:27 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> neither of which have cascade rules
[12:12:52 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> aye
[12:13:04 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> suspicious
[12:13:30 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> JasonElwood (or anybody else) do any intake/GPS testing with Mr S. Kanoy?
[12:13:51 CDT(-0500)] <pspaude> Not here
[12:13:53 CDT(-0500)] <JasonElwood> nope. just MAP lately
[12:18:18 CDT(-0500)] <pspaude> Hey should I put up a ticket? I have an issue for when you login as Mary Anderson (a manager) and you click manage users, it goes to a customize this etc.
[12:18:40 CDT(-0500)] <pspaude> Or is the persmissions just not done for a manager yet?
[12:19:48 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> JasonElwood think we need a ticket for your deleted user
[12:21:11 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> TonyUnicon1 wondering if we should just put a big fat log message with a stack trace in that AbstractAuditableCrudDao#delete for now so logs will show us every context in which something is actually being hard deleted. then can check the logs periodically today
[12:22:17 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> I think that would be useful
[12:22:30 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> I can put it in
[12:22:43 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> I actually have made changes to that class locally
[12:22:50 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> so would probably be easier anyway
[12:24:01 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> actually not that dao
[12:24:07 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> but I can still put it in
[12:25:08 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> what warning level for the log?
[12:25:32 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> dmccallum54
[12:39:15 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> just crank it way up for now
[12:39:19 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> error or fatal or whatever
[12:41:25 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> ok
[13:36:48 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> cache and long stuff is in JasonElwood
[13:36:52 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> cache and log&
[13:36:54 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> log*
[13:39:30 CDT(-0500)] <js70> hey jason, since i am using theta joins anyway, I can change back to using number instead of formattedCourse, should just take a few minutes. Go ahead?
[13:41:20 CDT(-0500)] <JasonElwood> so have subject and number?
[13:45:30 CDT(-0500)] <js70> yep, subjectAbbreviation and number
[13:45:36 CDT(-0500)] <JasonElwood> that will work
[13:45:40 CDT(-0500)] <js70> k
[14:33:32 CDT(-0500)] <js70> bye
[14:52:48 CDT(-0500)] <tbain> Question - in the ticket for the test data generation, Jason said "A feature of MAP will highlight courses on a MAP that a student has taken, based on the transcript" - does this match on the 'code' column value or the 'formatted_course' column value? I'm thinking code, but I want to make sure
[14:54:06 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> that is derived not stored
[14:54:20 CDT(-0500)] <JasonElwood> It needs to be formatted_course because is matched external_student_transcript_course to map_plan_course
[14:54:28 CDT(-0500)] <tbain> okay, thank you
[15:05:45 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> I am going to turn on postgres query logging on linux CI in an attempt to get some sort of visibility into what's going on when person deletes occur
[15:07:01 CDT(-0500)] <JasonElwood> cool. I found a second student that was deleted.
[15:08:19 CDT(-0500)] <JasonElwood> 1291 was updated
[15:08:40 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> thx
[15:08:41 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> ok
[15:08:50 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> linux CI is going down to pick up the pg config change
[15:23:03 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> it's back
[15:23:12 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> the log is already 40M
[15:23:18 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> wheeee
[15:24:04 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> i'll keep an eye on it
[15:24:23 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> if it gets completely out of hand i'll reconfig to send it to /media
[15:25:36 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> for the curious the log is at /var/lib/pgsql9/data/pg_log/postgresql-Thu.log
[15:30:34 CDT(-0500)] <pspaude1> Does the microsoft CI enviro have test data, as I'm not able to login with any of the demo data?
[15:32:32 CDT(-0500)] <JasonElwood> kinda. I've been using it to test sample data from Sinclair. I could trigger the later demo data if Tyler thinks it is ready
[15:33:15 CDT(-0500)] <JasonElwood> latest demo data
[15:34:14 CDT(-0500)] <pspaude1> Okay, no that is cool. I was just going to use it to stay off the Linux CI so you guys can log it better and also since the next school seems like they are going to use SQL.
[15:34:35 CDT(-0500)] <pspaude1> Edit: Microsoft SQL
[15:43:57 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> let's not clear off Linux CI entirely.
[15:44:21 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> would be nice to focus on the same sorts of things that jason was doing with the now-deleted users yesterday
[15:44:29 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> but we really have no good theories on what caused the deletion
[15:44:51 CDT(-0500)] <JasonElwood> my only activities were in MAP
[15:48:56 CDT(-0500)] <pspaude1> I will add a few new students and edit them. It is interesting that you can (as I just tried now) edit a student and change their coach to a different coach from a coach account .
[15:49:55 CDT(-0500)] <JasonElwood> If I understand what you did, that is by design. coaches can re-assign students
[15:51:18 CDT(-0500)] <pspaude1> Ah, okay, I thought only admin could. Manage users and Manage must be for uPortal then under the tool permissions for 2.0.
[15:51:58 CDT(-0500)] <JasonElwood> manage users and caseload assignment are completely different
[15:52:23 CDT(-0500)] <JasonElwood> manage users are for accounts to authenticate into uPortal, primarily
[15:54:06 CDT(-0500)] <JasonElwood> any reason to not re-add the deleted students?
[15:54:18 CDT(-0500)] <pspaude1> Yeah it makes sense now. Just got turned around here looking at the permissions.
[15:57:17 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> JasonElwood do whatever you need to so (including re-add)
[15:57:21 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> we have no theories
[15:57:25 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> so nothing to control for
[15:58:53 CDT(-0500)] <JasonElwood> Tony- in the past term check, what do you consider a past term? in Linux CI I'm seeing the current term (Summer 2013) as a past term
[16:08:37 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> Jim implemented that logic, I thought you had discussed it with him
[16:08:44 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> current terms are considered past terms
[16:08:52 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> so if the start date of summer 2013 is before today
[16:08:54 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> its a past term
[16:09:00 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> is how It works I believe
[16:09:15 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> let me double check
[16:09:33 CDT(-0500)] <JasonElwood> that's how it is behaving, but I remember the conversation not include current. current and future are ok to mod
[16:10:25 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> so if today is after end date, not after start date?
[16:11:16 CDT(-0500)] <JasonElwood> that makes sense. the use case is that a student could drop a course and move it into a future term
[16:12:21 CDT(-0500)] <JasonElwood> and for past terms, we agreed the only constraint was editing courses. notes and importance could be changed. right?
[16:12:48 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> course details were to be disabled is what we said
[16:12:51 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> which includes importance
[16:13:10 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> and course notes
[16:13:28 CDT(-0500)] <JasonElwood> ok. I'm able to change importance and notes for past terms
[16:13:53 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> can you drop on them?
[16:14:40 CDT(-0500)] <JasonElwood> cannot drop
[16:14:48 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> hmm
[16:16:10 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> strange, seems to work on my machine
[16:16:11 CDT(-0500)] <JasonElwood> For the past term, I wonder if it just wasn't implemented correctly. I see Summer 2013 in the Term Filter list, which would be correct.
[16:16:21 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> did you do anything special?
[16:16:30 CDT(-0500)] <JasonElwood> to work you mean, can't edit term notes?
[16:16:38 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> term notes you can edit
[16:16:44 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> course notes you shouldnt
[16:16:50 CDT(-0500)] <JasonElwood> special? like click my heels three times?
[16:17:06 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> like, did you load a template, then load a plan
[16:17:13 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> or did you just click on the student and load the current map
[16:17:19 CDT(-0500)] <JasonElwood> nope, straight template
[16:17:20 CDT(-0500)] <JasonElwood> yes
[16:17:38 CDT(-0500)] <JasonElwood> for past term: cannot drop courses, can add/edit notes and change importance flag
[16:17:48 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> for templates or plans?
[16:17:54 CDT(-0500)] <JasonElwood> plans
[16:18:23 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> your confusing me, you said straight template
[16:18:34 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> for templates you can edit anything in the past
[16:18:38 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> or at least that what we agreed
[16:18:42 CDT(-0500)] <JasonElwood> whoops. straight plan. choose student, select MAP, active plan opens
[16:18:44 CDT(-0500)] <JasonElwood> sorry
[16:18:56 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> what user student?
[16:18:56 CDT(-0500)] <JasonElwood> templates- yes edit anything
[16:19:03 CDT(-0500)] <JasonElwood> Gerri Slappy
[16:19:07 CDT(-0500)] <JasonElwood> in Linux
[16:20:29 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> he has no courses in the past
[16:20:33 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> or she?
[16:20:39 CDT(-0500)] <JasonElwood> she
[16:20:44 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> sorry Gerri
[16:20:52 CDT(-0500)] <JasonElwood> right. all my test plans are gone
[16:21:09 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> wait what
[16:21:12 CDT(-0500)] <JasonElwood> so I don't have any students with Spring 2013 data
[16:21:26 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> so how are you able to produce that bug?
[16:21:37 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> create a template
[16:21:47 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> put courses in a plan
[16:21:57 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> sorry put courses in the past terms
[16:21:58 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> save as plan
[16:22:10 CDT(-0500)] <JasonElwood> no. that's not the scenario
[16:22:37 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> I know its not the scenario
[16:22:43 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> its how you get courses in past terms
[16:23:46 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> hmm
[16:23:55 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> but it appears that you can't drop courses for past terms in templates
[16:23:56 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> sweet
[16:23:59 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> that worked at one point
[16:25:19 CDT(-0500)] <JasonElwood> that brings up a good point though. we shouldn't put past terms from a template into a plan as past terms
[16:25:37 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> its too late for that
[16:25:43 CDT(-0500)] <JasonElwood> It seems like we discussed that once
[16:25:54 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> i dont remember that specific point
[16:27:46 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> but I'll make the argument that it's not critical or needed, this are expect users
[16:27:54 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> these*
[16:28:06 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> like letting them override the term availability
[16:28:11 CDT(-0500)] <JasonElwood> definitely not critical for b2
[16:28:48 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> I mean if we are going to let them add to past terms for templates and templates are made are there to create plans
[16:28:54 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> then why let them do that with templates at all
[16:31:32 CDT(-0500)] <JasonElwood> good point. the only case I can come up with would be to move courses into a future term for a case where they maintain one template instead of creating new ones for each year
[16:32:41 CDT(-0500)] <JasonElwood> I can see the argument where we copy over the past terms so that the advisor sees what a student still needs to take in a future term.
[16:33:04 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> I think its debatable and considering who the audience is, erring on the side of more flexability I think is prudent
[16:33:37 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> I consider the disabiling of past terms of plans more of a user experience thing than data integrity
[16:34:03 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> we want them to not make mistakes
[16:34:08 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> chances are they dont want to edit past terms
[16:35:36 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> but they at least have the flexability to do so if they really needed to
[16:36:47 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> i need to focus on some bugs
[16:37:03 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> open re/open whatever you think we need to do
[16:37:04 CDT(-0500)] <JasonElwood> sure
[16:37:15 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> ill get to them
[16:37:29 CDT(-0500)] <JasonElwood> just to be clear: for past terms can or cannot edit notes and importance?
[16:37:47 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> cannot for plans
[16:37:49 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> can for templates
[16:37:56 CDT(-0500)] <JasonElwood> ok
[16:38:13 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> if we need to make a change to that
[16:38:17 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> it can probably be done
[16:38:36 CDT(-0500)] <JasonElwood> right now you can edit them. so I'll re-open the issue
[16:38:51 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> so again my question is
[16:39:01 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> the plan in question where you said the bug exited
[16:39:05 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> did not have past courses
[16:39:11 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> so how were you able to edit courses that dont exist?
[16:39:26 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> I thnk i am missing something
[16:39:27 CDT(-0500)] <JasonElwood> not courses, notes and importance flag
[16:39:36 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> what notes
[16:39:37 CDT(-0500)] <JasonElwood> term notes
[16:39:47 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> 
[16:39:59 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> I think I said just before term notes should be editable
[16:40:01 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> term level things
[16:40:06 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> I thought we said that was ok
[16:40:29 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> the bug I see if not being able to edit past terms in templates
[16:40:32 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> is*
[16:40:36 CDT(-0500)] <JasonElwood> term notes and importance ok to edit in past, course notes and importance not ok
[16:40:39 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> i have a head ache
[16:40:41 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1>
[16:41:09 CDT(-0500)] <JasonElwood> beer:59 brother
[16:41:13 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> yes but if you think it should work differently
[16:41:22 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> me drinking beer now, will help nobody, believe me
[16:42:38 CDT(-0500)] <pspaude1> Anyone delete a Payson North?
[16:42:43 CDT(-0500)] <pspaude1> On the linux CI?
[16:42:53 CDT(-0500)] <JasonElwood> nope
[16:42:54 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> wow
[16:43:03 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon1> maybe I will have a beer
[16:43:11 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> when was Payson North last sighted?
[16:43:38 CDT(-0500)] <JasonElwood> I know a good car service in Denver that will pick up your family at the airport. good ahead and pound 'em
[16:43:47 CDT(-0500)] <JasonElwood> go ahead
[16:43:57 CDT(-0500)] <pspaude1> Approx .5 - 1 hour ago when I assigned him from Chris Garcia to me Pspaude as under my caseload. There were two Payson Norths (one of the mysterious duplicates from this morning).
[16:44:12 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> ok
[16:44:15 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> will have a look
[16:45:00 CDT(-0500)] <pspaude1> Okay, thanks. Maybe the system added him and then took him away when it felt like it
[16:45:08 CDT(-0500)] <JasonElwood> I see a Payson still there
[16:45:22 CDT(-0500)] <JasonElwood> assigned to Chris Garcia
[16:46:25 CDT(-0500)] <pspaude1> Yes, there were two. One of the mysterious doubles, I chalked up to me adding one in days previous. Both were assigned to Chris Garcia, then I reassigned one to me pspaude. When I went back in after adding a bunch to cgarcia, and checked my (pspaude) caseload he was gone.