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[09:43:50 EDT(-0400)] <esm> http://uppertank.net/blog/archives/26
[09:44:19 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> 
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[10:22:14 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> mornin' all
[10:22:24 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> nothing like early morning Oracle maintenance
[10:22:44 EDT(-0400)] * pberry yawns
[10:24:43 EDT(-0400)] <esm> must be almost lunchtime then for you
[10:24:46 EDT(-0400)] <esm> if you came in early
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[10:47:51 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> esm: zing! 
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[11:23:40 EDT(-0400)] <ac_chan> hi
[11:23:52 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> hello
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[11:52:31 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> wow, we're getting popular
[11:52:43 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist>
[11:53:07 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> makes me happy ... more people that I can go to when I need quick help
[11:58:55 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> hey pberry I have a Jira-fu question for you
[11:59:07 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> fire away
[11:59:11 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I want to batch change a set of issues and add an affects version to all of them
[11:59:28 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I just tried it and it sets the affects version
[11:59:36 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> so if issue A affects versions 1 and 2
[11:59:39 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I want to add 3
[11:59:48 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> but I want to do this to a whole batch of issues at once
[12:00:05 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> ah, so you want append and not change
[12:00:08 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yup
[12:00:12 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> hrm
[12:00:27 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> and I can't just select 1 2 & 3 since each issue has a different base set of affected versions
[12:00:35 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> right
[12:00:39 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> that might be "hard"
[12:00:46 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I have to run to a 10 minute meeting but I'll be back and expect an answer to be waiting for me
[12:00:51 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> how many issues are we talking about?
[12:00:55 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> heh
[12:00:57 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> 21 in this case
[12:01:01 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> http://www.ja-sig.org/issues/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&&type=1&pid=10020&resolution=-1&version=10501&version=10497&version=10492&sorter/field=issuekey&sorter/order=DESC
[12:01:02 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> send me the filter link real quick
[12:01:05 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> cool
[12:01:23 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> all of those need to 'affect' 2.6.1-RC2 in addition to all of their current affects
[12:01:27 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> so ... back in a few
[12:06:18 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> back
[12:06:26 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> so yeah ... I did look into this a few weeks ago
[12:06:37 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> and found an improvement ticket for Jira that I voted on
[12:06:52 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> just curious if you had any ideas other than my current way of editing each issue
[12:07:37 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> though the by-hand method sure encourages the release engineer to resolve as many issues as possible
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[12:11:23 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> EricDalquist: It appears that bulk change does a "replace y with x" and not "add x to y" operation
[12:11:43 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> so, it looks like the "solution" is "edit each issue"
[12:11:58 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yup ... it would be really nice to have a toggle for those listbox properties to select between add or replace
[12:12:31 EDT(-0400)] * pberry goes to check the feature requests in the Atlassian JIRA
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[12:13:42 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> what is the URL for their Jira instance again?
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[12:13:54 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> http://jira.atlassian.com/browse/JRA-13456
[12:13:55 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> heh
[12:14:04 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> looks like you already created it
[12:14:10 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> oh yup
[12:14:23 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> you can go vote on it for me
[12:14:44 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> done
[12:16:21 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> our JIRA 3.11 upgrade is planned for Friday
[12:16:31 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> exciting
[12:16:33 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> EricDalquist: do you know if there are a lot of plugins installed?
[12:16:40 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> in the JA-SIG instance
[12:16:46 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> um, I don't think so
[12:17:30 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> so, updating and getting some of the nice plugins (charting, calendar, subversion) would be nice. and yes...I'm kinda putting my time out there for this.
[12:18:09 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> cool, well if this is something you'd be willing to work on we can get you involved ... are you on the infrastructure list?
[12:18:18 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> nope
[12:18:29 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> ok well that is the first step
[12:18:37 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I'll get to that after I'm done updating all these issues by hand
[12:18:45 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> signing up for a mailling list sounds hard though
[12:19:01 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> the fun is I just add you
[12:19:09 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> EricDalquist: you need an Asok intern for that
[12:19:20 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yes I do
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[12:26:36 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yay 2.6.1-RC2 has been released
[12:27:09 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> cool
[12:30:47 EDT(-0400)] <lescour> any thoughts on what software to use for an internal maven repo?
[12:31:30 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> just for local artifacts or as a mirror of the main repo?
[12:31:53 EDT(-0400)] <lescour> probably as a mirror
[12:32:41 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> there is a maven proxy servlet
[12:32:46 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> trying to remember the name
[12:33:25 EDT(-0400)] <lescour> dsmp?
[12:33:29 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> http://maven-proxy.codehaus.org/
[12:34:06 EDT(-0400)] <lescour> THX
[12:34:10 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yup
[12:55:36 EDT(-0400)] <esm> http://www.jfrog.org/sites/artifactory/1.2/
[12:55:42 EDT(-0400)] <esm> artifactory i've heard things about...
[13:13:46 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I really need to proof my emails better
[13:13:55 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> my dev list email is supposed to be about bite-sized tasks
[13:14:04 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> instead it is about bit-sized tasks
[13:15:27 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> I thought that was just an awesome nerd joke
[13:15:38 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> see, a bit is really small
[13:16:16 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yeah
[13:16:21 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I do realize it still kind of work
[13:16:22 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> works
[13:16:41 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I just don't want to give people any more reasons to call me a nerd
[13:28:19 EDT(-0400)] <esm> you just have to shift through the bits as ur reading
[13:28:23 EDT(-0400)] <esm> >>
[13:28:30 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> 
[13:33:27 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> jayshao: wow, https://jira.ucdavis.edu/jira/browse/SAK
[13:33:50 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> UC Davis has their JIRA instance open, and you can see their Sakai issues
[13:34:12 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> that seems like an oops
[13:34:47 EDT(-0400)] <jayshao> enlightened maybe?
[13:34:49 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> yeah, we have some of our Confluence open, but none of JIRA
[13:34:57 EDT(-0400)] <jayshao> I would generally be ok with running an open issue tracker...
[13:35:01 EDT(-0400)] <jayshao> in theory
[13:35:05 EDT(-0400)] <jayshao> if I had more help
[13:35:09 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> heh
[13:37:25 EDT(-0400)] <jayshao> I pinged Jon about it
[13:37:35 EDT(-0400)] <jayshao> we'll see if it's enlightenment or a security breach
[13:37:51 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> I didn't hax0r their JIRA, I swear!
[14:00:13 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> hey pberry you have a preferred email address for the infrastructure list?
[14:01:03 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> pberry@csuchico.edu
[14:01:13 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> should probably be my "word" one...
[14:01:21 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> be warned, I don't check it on the weekend
[14:12:09 EDT(-0400)] <jayshao> pberry
[14:12:16 EDT(-0400)] <jayshao> you interested in confluence admin-ning too?
[14:12:47 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> don't scare him away now jayshao!
[14:12:55 EDT(-0400)] <jayshao> heh
[14:13:02 EDT(-0400)] <jayshao> eh, done one done them all
[14:13:23 EDT(-0400)] <jayshao> and I'm only asking since I seem to remember some past thread of interest...
[14:13:50 EDT(-0400)] <jayshao> and then we'd all get to play with the latest greatest toys
[14:22:22 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> Oh man, Confluence is a friggin' beast...
[14:22:30 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> I actually don't do the upgrades on Confluence
[14:22:36 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> here at Chico
[14:32:30 EDT(-0400)] <jayshao> heh
[14:32:35 EDT(-0400)] <jayshao> it's not that bad
[14:32:39 EDT(-0400)] <jayshao> if nothing goes wrong...
[14:32:41 EDT(-0400)] <jayshao>
[14:33:38 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> oh the one big catch to all of this pberry? The current ja-sig.org hardware is S L O W
[14:34:00 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> yeah
[14:34:05 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> I know
[14:34:20 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> that is the big problem with export/import confluence upgrades
[14:34:27 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> things timeout in the time it takes to do an export
[14:34:39 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> so all of our upgrades so far have been in-place
[14:34:51 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> jira seems to be much better from my memory though
[14:35:28 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> yeah. poking around the wiki space now
[14:35:51 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> oh and I made you a Jira admin too
[14:36:00 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> since I figured you'd kind of need that
[14:36:13 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> ah, cool. I was just going to ask if backups are configured
[14:36:35 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I don't think we use the Jira automated backups
[14:36:42 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> we do a DB dump every night though
[14:36:54 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> and the machine's disk is backed up by princeton
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[14:56:32 EDT(-0400)] <colinclar1> EricDalquist: I will be a couple of minutes late for the steering committee, but will arrive shortly.
[14:56:39 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> ok
[14:56:49 EDT(-0400)] <colinclar1> Apparently the entire Sakai QA team is waiting for me to commit a patch before cutting the next QA tag.
[14:57:10 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> lol
[14:57:16 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> so, you know...no rush
[14:59:28 EDT(-0400)] <colinclar1> LOL
[15:06:03 EDT(-0400)] <esm> cocoon's site got a face lift
[15:06:08 EDT(-0400)] <esm> http://cocoon.apache.org
[15:06:30 EDT(-0400)] <esm> looks nice
[15:11:04 EDT(-0400)] <esm> except
[15:11:10 EDT(-0400)] <esm> i can't find any of the documentation i need
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[16:25:53 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> EricDalquist: shell account activated
[16:25:59 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> exciting
[16:26:19 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> well just give everyone on the infrastructure list good lead time before doing anything
[16:26:20 EDT(-0400)] <esm> Robert Jordan died. Somehow I missed that news.
[16:26:31 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> it seems that Solaris still has that awesome 8 char uid convention going for it
[16:26:46 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> EricDalquist: oh, do not worry about that
[16:27:09 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> well the version of solaris we're still one does
[16:27:14 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> I'm quite used to the plan, document, announce, wait for feedback, do "stuff" loop
[16:27:25 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> great
[16:27:35 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> who is Robert Jordan?
[16:27:37 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> people tend to bristle at the "other" methods
[16:27:43 EDT(-0400)] <agherna> EricDalquist: Tim filed an issue in jira (http://www.ja-sig.org/issues/browse/UP-1842). Pending posting of the diffs, and also understanding that we are at "feature completeness" with 2.6.1, is there any chance in the world that we could review/incorporate our enhancements in time for a 2.6.1 release?
[16:27:52 EDT(-0400)] <esm> wrote the Wheel of Time series
[16:27:53 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> Robert Jordan was an evil man who wrote evil books that consumed the lives of many, many good people
[16:28:23 EDT(-0400)] <esm> 15 years or so in the making and he died before he could finish writing the last book.
[16:32:20 EDT(-0400)] <esm> excellent books
[16:32:28 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I'll have to look into them
[16:32:36 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> my wife hates them...because she can't not read them all
[16:33:01 EDT(-0400)] <esm> EricDalquist: if you like fantasy you will be hooked
[16:33:10 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> cool
[16:33:14 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> and you've been fairly warned
[16:33:20 EDT(-0400)] <esm> pberry: according to his blog, he has dictated much of the notes and his assistant and wife know "everything"
[16:33:35 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> well I have 50 minutes of bus ride per day
[16:33:41 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> so that will be good
[16:33:53 EDT(-0400)] <esm> so i wuld be really surprised if memory of light does not get published one day
[16:33:59 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> I never got hooked...but my wife did. She still punishes our friend that introduced them to her on our trip to Australia
[16:34:18 EDT(-0400)] <esm> i'm hooked - i've re-read the series a few times
[16:40:02 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> awwww, isn't that cute. default shell is still csh
[16:40:06 EDT(-0400)] * pberry chuckles
[16:40:24 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> some time in the mysterious future we're going to be moving to new hardware
[16:40:31 EDT(-0400)] * agherna uses tcsh all the time and loves it
[16:40:33 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> yeah, Paul mentioned that on the phone
[16:40:43 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> but that process seems to be taking its own time
[16:40:54 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> it going to happen "in the future"
[16:43:07 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I'm off
[16:43:18 EDT(-0400)] * esm flashes back to conan's "in the year 2000" skits
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