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[10:05:48 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I hate trying to figure out where to add content in the wiki
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[10:10:14 EDT(-0400)] <MarkRogers> funny you should mention that
[10:49:37 EDT(-0400)] <Tuomaz_> Is it possible, from a portlet, to query uPortal what locale the user has set in the portal?
[10:50:24 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yes, the portlet api provide a method I think on the request to get the locale
[10:51:45 EDT(-0400)] <Tuomaz_> Should the portal setting override the browser setting?
[10:52:30 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I think so
[10:52:40 EDT(-0400)] <Tuomaz_> Ok, have to test again then.
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[10:57:57 EDT(-0400)] <Tuomaz_> When using pageContext.request.locale.language in my jsp I cannot see any difference when selecting different locales in uP3
[10:58:26 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> hrm, portlet locale support may have been overlooked
[10:58:34 EDT(-0400)] <Tuomaz_> I have to change preferred language in firefox..
[10:58:50 EDT(-0400)] <Tuomaz_> to see any difference
[10:58:51 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> ah
[10:58:55 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> you're using the wrong variable
[10:58:59 EDT(-0400)] <Tuomaz_> ok
[10:59:00 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> PortletRequest.getLocales()
[10:59:06 EDT(-0400)] <Tuomaz_> Will try that,
[10:59:08 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> and PortletRequest.getLocale()
[10:59:17 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> though honestly I don't remember doing much work there
[10:59:24 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> so that may have been overlooked too
[10:59:25 EDT(-0400)] <Tuomaz_> ok, 
[10:59:28 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> let me know what you find
[10:59:38 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> http://portals.apache.org/pluto/portlet-1.0-apidocs/javax/portlet/PortletRequest.html#getLocale()
[11:12:38 EDT(-0400)] <Tuomaz_> EricDalquist: same result
[11:13:17 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> :/
[11:13:22 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> Can you file a bug report?
[11:14:24 EDT(-0400)] <Tuomaz_> Yes
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[11:25:14 EDT(-0400)] <Tuomaz_> EricDalquist: UP-2071
[11:26:18 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> thanks much Tuomaz_
[11:26:23 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I'll take a look this week
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[13:36:53 EDT(-0400)] <KWhat_Work> YO
[13:36:57 EDT(-0400)] <KWhat_Work> good morning
[13:37:17 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> or afternoon
[13:37:23 EDT(-0400)] <KWhat_Work> Anyone know where you put some of these prop files like ldap.properties ?
[13:37:37 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> what version of uPortal
[13:37:58 EDT(-0400)] <KWhat_Work> EricDalquist: yes i guess that was kind of a relative statement... its 5pm somewhere =P
[13:38:00 EDT(-0400)] <KWhat_Work> .3.0
[13:39:20 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> http://www.ja-sig.org/wiki/display/UPM30/03+Converting+ldap.xml+or+ldap.properties
[13:41:29 EDT(-0400)] <KWhat_Work> EricDalquist: ummm so we are moving away from .props ?
[13:41:36 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yup
[13:41:39 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> not everything is there
[13:41:50 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> but much of the 'wiring' is moving to spring configuration files
[13:42:51 EDT(-0400)] <KWhat_Work> oh ok. http://www.ja-sig.org/wiki/display/UPM30/Properties may need updating
[13:43:17 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> it does
[13:43:20 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I just found that
[13:43:30 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> that whole section needs gutting 
[13:43:34 EDT(-0400)] * EricDalquist needs a clone or 3
[13:43:59 EDT(-0400)] <KWhat_Work> LOL
[13:44:06 EDT(-0400)] <KWhat_Work> which is more correct ?
[13:44:12 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> the first one
[13:44:21 EDT(-0400)] <KWhat_Work> ie the one you sent me
[13:44:24 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> that whole Configuration section is out of date
[13:44:24 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yes
[13:44:29 EDT(-0400)] <KWhat_Work> k
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[14:44:06 EDT(-0400)] <KWhat_Work> Where are the css and layout changes go ?
[15:34:39 EDT(-0400)] <MarkRogers> you might want to reference Eric's "where did everything go?" presentation - http://www.ja-sig.org/wiki/x/LwXP
[15:50:15 EDT(-0400)] <KWhat_Work> Yo
[15:50:31 EDT(-0400)] <KWhat_Work> is the auth info up to date http://www.ja-sig.org/wiki/display/UPM30/05+Authentication
[15:51:27 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> should be, though there are some LDAP related bugs that will be fixed in 3.0.1
[15:51:34 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> which should be out in a week or so
[15:54:07 EDT(-0400)] <KWhat_Work> k, how many people you recommend to keep a system like this running ?
[15:54:20 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> huh?
[15:54:35 EDT(-0400)] <KWhat_Work> uportal in general
[15:54:51 EDT(-0400)] <KWhat_Work> how many people do you think it would take to manage the system ?
[15:54:56 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> ah
[15:55:01 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> well
[15:55:19 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> we have 4.5 FTEs running our portal
[15:55:24 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> a manager
[15:55:30 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> a change management/source control person
[15:55:35 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> a java developer
[15:55:48 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> and then several other partial people doing sysadmin/serveradmin/dba work
[15:55:53 EDT(-0400)] <KWhat_Work> wow
[15:56:03 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> but we have 60000+ logins/day
[15:56:07 EDT(-0400)] <KWhat_Work> ok
[15:56:38 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> and 8 prod, 4 qa, 1 test, 1 dev, 1 predev, 1 demo, & 1 test-demo instances of uPortal
[15:56:48 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> prod/qa are load-balanced
[15:57:27 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> so 4.5 people to manage 17+ uPortal instances, manage maintenance, upgrades, interaction with other people writing portlets ...
[15:57:40 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> and we have a HEAVILY customized uPortal instance
[15:58:21 EDT(-0400)] <KWhat_Work> i think im going to the keep it as simple as possilbe. We only have 1 programmer and 1 sysadmin
[15:58:57 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yeah and I know of lots of schools that have just that
[15:59:20 EDT(-0400)] <KWhat_Work> ok you think its doable, right now we are on oracle and swamped
[16:00:43 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> honestly I can only tell you want I know other places are doing
[16:00:44 EDT(-0400)] <MarkRogers> and then there's Unicon, I think
[16:01:14 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> a lot will depend on your local expertise and user's needs
[16:01:16 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yeah
[16:01:25 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> and we actually had far more than 4.5 FTE for initial implementation
[16:01:53 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> UW hired Unicon to help with a switch from Epicentric to uPortal over a ~1.5 year time frame
[16:02:31 EDT(-0400)] <KWhat_Work> Jesus
[16:02:33 EDT(-0400)] <KWhat_Work> ok
[16:02:34 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> but again we were converting an existing portal that had been in heavy use for 6 or 7 years
[16:02:53 EDT(-0400)] <KWhat_Work> unicon have a site ?
[16:02:58 EDT(-0400)] <MarkRogers> unicon.net
[16:02:59 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> so we had a 2 hour outage where we switched 50000+ users from Epicentric to uPortal
[16:03:14 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> that's a bit different prospect than standing up a new portal
[16:03:36 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I guess the underlying point is finding out what others have done is great, but much if it depends on your specific needs
[16:03:51 EDT(-0400)] <KWhat_Work> well we are migrating but i have been portal all our stuff to jsr-168 already.
[16:04:04 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> nice
[16:04:21 EDT(-0400)] <KWhat_Work> excellent
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[16:49:57 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> anastasiac, michelled: I'm back from sailing. How are things going with release prep? I see lots of tagging-related commits, which is great.
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