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[16:34:13 EST(-0500)] <jayshao> EricDalquist you there?
[16:34:24 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> yup
[16:35:50 EST(-0500)] <jayshao> wanted to try to talk to you about pre-conf uPortal seminars
[16:36:07 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> ok ...
[16:36:10 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> already doing 2
[16:36:20 EST(-0500)] <jayshao> I'd really like to see a uPortal 101 – there seems to be a lot of interest in uPortal for people who are new
[16:36:27 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> just need to get back to susan on the writups
[16:36:30 EST(-0500)] <jayshao> and am really looking to rationalize how that fits in with the other talks
[16:36:40 EST(-0500)] <jayshao> since some of the uPortal 3 seminar sounds like it could overlap
[16:36:47 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> yeah
[16:37:01 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> I'm a bit iffy about the up3 seminar content right now
[16:37:14 EST(-0500)] <jayshao> also wondering on timing – by conference do you think uPortal 3 will be a "check out coming soon" or "download and use"?
[16:37:16 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> like who the target should be
[16:37:23 EST(-0500)] <jayshao> right
[16:37:25 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> download and use
[16:37:45 EST(-0500)] <jayshao> the question being – is it important for a uPortal 101 type session to cover 2.6.x or 3.0?
[16:38:08 EST(-0500)] <jayshao> April... aimed at maybe a fall deployment a uPortal 3 GA seems very reasonable
[16:38:23 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> so my up3 seminar I was thinking originally about targeting toward 'uPortal developers' people that actually care what the code under the hood looks like
[16:38:51 EST(-0500)] <jayshao> do you think there's 4 hours there?
[16:39:09 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> yeah
[16:39:15 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> do I think there is enough interest?
[16:39:17 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> I don
[16:39:19 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> I don't know
[16:39:43 EST(-0500)] <jayshao> would you do that pre or post?
[16:40:01 EST(-0500)] <jayshao> if we're doing working days/dev meeting after the conference, then post would be a nice segue into tackling bite-sized tasks
[16:40:43 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> the idea is pre
[16:40:48 EST(-0500)] <jayshao> I'm thinking uPortal 101 would hit the kind of stuff you'd do to bring up a customized test server, maybe do a small pilot
[16:40:55 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> drew and I have been talking about doing coordinated pre conf seminars
[16:41:06 EST(-0500)] <jayshao> which seems like it would hit some of the "this is here, touch this here" but a different audience
[16:41:07 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> cernunnos by drew in the am
[16:41:12 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> up3 internals by me in the am
[16:41:19 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> migrating to up3 using cernunnos in the pm
[16:41:30 EST(-0500)] <jayshao> hm
[16:41:40 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> are you on the conf committee?
[16:41:49 EST(-0500)] <jayshao> no – no time this time around
[16:41:53 EST(-0500)] <jayshao> I lurk on the wiki though
[16:41:54 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> ah
[16:42:08 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> so what I just described is being finalized as we speak
[16:42:16 EST(-0500)] <jayshao> this is more me thinking we need a soft intro for people from outside
[16:42:35 EST(-0500)] <jayshao> I had some conversations with a couple of people, so think I have a day or so to at least get something in the wiki list
[16:42:36 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> sounds like a good idea
[16:42:48 EST(-0500)] <jayshao> but not sure how to mesh it with other offerings
[16:42:52 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> could go in the pm against the migration seminar
[16:43:00 EST(-0500)] <jayshao> that's what I'm thinking
[16:43:05 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> since we probably would have different people interested in a up101 and a migration track
[16:43:15 EST(-0500)] <jayshao> so we have a couple advanced tracks for new deployers & upgraders
[16:43:18 EST(-0500)] <jayshao> and core commiters
[16:43:26 EST(-0500)] <jayshao> say newbies, users, core developers?
[16:43:47 EST(-0500)] <jayshao> that seems to give something for the core uPortal constituencies
[16:45:43 EST(-0500)] <jayshao> wonder if we can do a reprise (pre-prise?) of the Gettysburg panel in the afternoon as a second item for new individuals?
[16:46:26 EST(-0500)] <jayshao> maybe a presentation of case-studies or something? think we could drag Jim into talking about myUW from more of a positioning and functional level?
[16:46:43 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> you'd have to ask him
[16:48:34 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> I think a 101 seminar is a great idea ... my time to contribute to it will likely be very very minimal
[16:48:51 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> though if it covers uP3 I could do my best to provide support & input
[16:50:00 EST(-0500)] <jayshao> right – I was thinking more that they'd overlap enough that we could do a lot of the material work in the uP manual and build out that
[16:50:28 EST(-0500)] <jayshao> since part of uP101 is probably... "where's the documentation?" 
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