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[10:20:08 CDT(-0500)] <holdorph> wow, this was a great way to start a friday: http://jz10.java.no/java-4-ever-trailer.html
[10:21:00 CDT(-0500)] <holdorph> well that and apples press release telling people to hold their phone differently. lol.
[10:40:26 CDT(-0500)] <athena> hold their phone different?
[10:42:40 CDT(-0500)] <holdorph> you didn't read about the iphone 4 antenna problems yesterday
[10:42:45 CDT(-0500)] <holdorph> oh, man it's classic
[10:42:54 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> yeah
[10:43:04 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> not sure how apple didn't see that coming
[10:43:20 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> even putting a thin clear plastic coating over the metal edge would have fixed it
[10:44:05 CDT(-0500)] <holdorph> but even beyond the problem itself, apple's response of "hold it differently"..... ah, classic apple.
[10:44:11 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> yup
[10:44:22 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> or 'buy our case'
[10:45:07 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> confluence's permissions UI is really annoying
[10:45:15 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> there really needs to be a better way to remove a group
[10:46:29 CDT(-0500)] <athena> just looked that up
[10:46:32 CDT(-0500)] <athena> wow, that's all stupid
[10:46:36 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> yeah
[10:46:42 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> to remove a group you have to uncheck ever box
[10:46:51 CDT(-0500)] <athena> wow that is also stupid
[10:46:53 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> and they have no 'toggle all' button
[10:46:58 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> so tab+space
[10:47:00 CDT(-0500)] <athena> 
[10:47:03 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> yeah
[11:01:03 CDT(-0500)] <athena> EricDalquist: do you know if the portal knows whether the current user is logged in via impersonation?
[11:01:16 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> it does
[11:01:25 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> there is a session attribute that has the original user's username
[11:01:29 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> the logout servlet looks for it
[11:01:48 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> so when you 'unswap' you go back to who you were
[11:02:01 CDT(-0500)] <athena> awesome, thanks
[11:23:30 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> so sick of checkboxes
[11:24:14 CDT(-0500)] <athena>
[11:24:16 CDT(-0500)] <athena> no good
[11:24:32 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/78131
[11:24:34 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> mmm
[11:26:09 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> woohoo!
[11:26:13 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> that script works perfectly
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[12:53:43 CDT(-0500)] <athena> so EricDalquist
[12:54:05 CDT(-0500)] <athena> if you set portlet preferences as a fragment owner, do those get inherited by users?
[13:03:20 CDT(-0500)] <holdorph> in my experience, no.
[13:03:39 CDT(-0500)] <holdorph> but that's mostly an ancedotal experience as a user
[13:05:58 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> no
[13:06:01 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> they don't
[13:06:11 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> they get stored on the portlet entity for the fragment owner
[13:06:27 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> we would have to expand the portlet data model for that to work
[13:14:42 CDT(-0500)] <athena> gotcha
[13:14:54 CDT(-0500)] <athena> i figured that was the case
[13:15:03 CDT(-0500)] <athena> think we're starting to get to the point where people may be looking for that
[13:15:27 CDT(-0500)] <athena> by the way, we can stop including the numbers in the title of documentation pages now right?
[13:15:41 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> yes
[13:15:42 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> we can
[13:16:40 CDT(-0500)] <athena> ok
[13:18:26 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> you can use the page-tree view to manage ordering
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[13:57:02 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> uhg
[13:57:25 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> so much cruft in the group memberships
[14:16:38 CDT(-0500)] <athena> did we ever fix the guest layout so that it could be refreshed periodically?
[14:16:42 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> nope
[14:16:50 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> we have a layout cache
[14:16:57 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> it just needs to get moved in there I think
[14:17:20 CDT(-0500)] <athena> ah
[14:17:28 CDT(-0500)] <athena> well
[14:17:51 CDT(-0500)] <athena> hm
[14:17:54 CDT(-0500)] <athena> would be good to have fixed 
[14:25:22 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> hrm
[14:25:28 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> page editing in confluence looks funny
[14:25:49 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> can you try editing a page and see how it looks?
[14:27:25 CDT(-0500)] <athena> looks ok to me i think?
[14:27:29 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> ok
[14:27:33 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> couldjust be firefox
[14:29:39 CDT(-0500)] <athena> ugh, i hate what editing w/ the WYSIWYG editor does to confluence page markup
[14:30:35 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> yup
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