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[10:10:06 EDT(-0400)] <athena> welcome back EricDalquist!
[10:10:27 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> thanks
[10:10:35 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> now to deal with 3 weeks of email 
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[10:25:06 EDT(-0400)] <athena> good luck w/ the email 
[10:53:01 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> http://www.ja-sig.org/wiki/display/PLT/CSS+Best+Practices
[10:53:08 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> does that seem sane?
[11:00:25 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i think we need to have a broader conversation about that
[11:00:32 EDT(-0400)] <athena> since no one ever replied to gary's proposal
[11:00:48 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> well I don't want to address actual class names
[11:00:51 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> or anything like that
[11:01:14 EDT(-0400)] <athena> ok
[11:01:22 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i think your proposal sounds 100% reasonable
[11:01:42 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> just guidelines for writing a portlet that uses custom CSS and doesn't have/cause issues
[11:01:58 EDT(-0400)] <athena> yeah
[11:02:01 EDT(-0400)] <athena> that sounds good to me
[11:02:13 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i'm really concerned about not addressing gary's proposal though
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[11:02:30 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I agree it needs to be addressed
[11:02:39 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I don't have the cycles do address it though 
[11:02:39 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i really want to make sure we don't wait until the last minute before the release
[11:02:46 EDT(-0400)] <athena> yeah, i know
[11:03:09 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i just don't want to repeat what we did w/ the last release, where no one looked over the changes and then there were concerns after the fact
[11:03:25 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yeah
[11:03:36 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> well the fix for that is to have a little more email about it
[11:03:40 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> then to get it in asap
[11:03:49 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> so we have more time to play with it before we release
[11:04:00 EDT(-0400)] <athena> yeah
[11:04:02 EDT(-0400)] <athena> agreed
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[14:08:06 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> uhoh ... I pile driver is being put up about 50ft from my window
[14:08:12 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> going to be a noisy week at work
[14:09:15 EDT(-0400)] <athena> oh ugh.
[14:09:26 EDT(-0400)] <athena> they replaced our water heater last week because it was leaking
[14:09:44 EDT(-0400)] <athena> 1 full day of work w/ no water, a/c, or working stove
[14:09:53 EDT(-0400)] <athena> another full day of constant power tool noise
[14:10:01 EDT(-0400)] <athena> and then we had no hot water the next day
[14:10:02 EDT(-0400)] <athena> go figure
[14:10:05 EDT(-0400)] * athena was grumpy last week
[14:10:05 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> nice
[14:10:26 EDT(-0400)] <athena> did you have a good vacation?
[14:10:54 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yes
[14:11:02 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> it was great
[14:11:13 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I don't think I've ever been away from work that long before
[14:11:39 EDT(-0400)] <athena> that's great
[14:11:42 EDT(-0400)] <athena> you deserve a break
[14:12:20 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> thanks
[14:12:30 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> now just trying to go through things one at a time
[14:15:33 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMiEJdD520U&feature=related
[14:15:42 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> an example of what is now outside my window
[14:21:31 EDT(-0400)] <athena> oh man
[14:21:32 EDT(-0400)] <athena> lol
[14:21:38 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yeah
[14:21:44 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> it is a neat contraption
[14:21:47 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> but rather loud
[14:22:18 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I'm wondering how all the disk arrays in the data center 3 floors down are liking the vibration
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