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[10:36:34 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> good morning
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[11:42:16 EST(-0500)] <dstn> Is it possible to deploy a portlet to 2.6.1-GA Quickstart?
[11:46:20 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> probably?
[11:47:04 EST(-0500)] <dstn> Just thought I'd ask before I tried in...trying now :-D
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[12:49:36 EST(-0500)] <lescour> hi
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[12:54:30 EST(-0500)] <lescour> does uportal currently have any notion of failed login attempts?
[12:54:47 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> nope
[12:55:22 EST(-0500)] <lescour> i think this is going to be a requirment here very soon
[12:55:50 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> I'm not sure how many people use the uportal login code versus some other SSO solution
[12:58:58 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> and in fact with 3.0 the default will be to use CAS
[13:04:35 EST(-0500)] <lescour> yes, i'm thinking of using this issue as a springboard
[13:04:45 EST(-0500)] <lescour> to speed up our adoption
[13:05:18 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> good plan
[13:11:21 EST(-0500)] <lescour> did you make a decision regarding the 2.1.1 client or the 3.x?
[13:13:07 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> we'll be using casclient 2.2.0
[13:13:18 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> Andrew there were some patches that we should be using anyways
[13:13:29 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> and we're adding a REALLY_INSECURE (or something like that) flag
[13:13:37 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> so that http based urls work
[13:19:18 EST(-0500)] <lescour> that will make testing much easier, for sure
[13:22:26 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> yeah
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[13:43:35 EST(-0500)] <sysadmin> evening, to save a poor fool hours of messing ... can anyone tell me if I download the uportal only version ... should I get ... /usr/bin/build-classpath: error: Could not find jaxp_parser_impl Java extension for this JVM
[13:43:39 EST(-0500)] <sysadmin> /usr/bin/build-classpath: error: Could not find xml-commons-apis Java extension for this JVM
[13:44:24 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> what version of uportal, what container, what os, what jvm version?
[13:46:36 EST(-0500)] <sysadmin> eek, lol, uPortal_rel-2-6-1-GA, os - centos 5.1 - jdk-1.5.0_14-fcs
[13:46:56 EST(-0500)] <sysadmin> and container version ... hmmm, I admit I dont know what that means
[13:47:05 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> are you using tomcat?
[13:47:13 EST(-0500)] <sysadmin> yup ... latest 5.5
[13:47:21 EST(-0500)] <sysadmin> ahh, container, I see 
[13:48:11 EST(-0500)] <sysadmin> I get that from an ant command, I guess they are jars that it references, but I cannot fathom if "As of the 2.4.* release all of the necessary external jar files are included in the lib directory as well" applies here
[13:48:17 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> yeah
[13:48:20 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> it should
[13:48:33 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> though the error about '/usr/bin/build-classpath' is strange
[13:48:47 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> is that JVM a Sun JVM?
[13:48:55 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> and what version of Ant are you using?
[13:49:20 EST(-0500)] <sysadmin> yes, although the ant is the centos one, which pulled the gcj version with it ... should I have downloaded ant instead of yum'ing it ?
[13:51:26 EST(-0500)] <sysadmin> ah, okay, I see ... ant is reporting that error independently of uPortal, thanks, I'll go try sort it
[13:51:47 EST(-0500)] * sysadmin realises this is nothing to do with uportal at this stage
[13:51:51 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> yeah, most linux distributions make doing Java work rather painful
[13:52:01 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> since they try to fake Java support using gcj
[13:52:05 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> which never really seems to work
[13:52:25 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> your best bet would be to grab JDK5 or JDK6 and Ant yourself and use those
[13:52:42 EST(-0500)] <sysadmin> complete newb to java, but I usually pick stuff up pretty quick
[13:53:00 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> it is pretty easy
[13:53:15 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> really it is a fault of linux distros for trying to fake java support
[13:53:55 EST(-0500)] <sysadmin> y
[13:53:57 EST(-0500)] <sysadmin> y
[13:54:03 EST(-0500)] <sysadmin> sorry
[13:54:16 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> no problem 
[13:56:26 EST(-0500)] <athena7> yeah i've been bitten by that in the past too
[13:56:38 EST(-0500)] <athena7> or i've downloaded java and forgot to reset my java_home and wondered why it didn't work
[13:56:46 EST(-0500)] <sysadmin> ant ; ant initportal now running, thanks
[13:58:01 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> awesome
[13:58:34 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> anyone here an apache person?
[13:59:23 EST(-0500)] <athena7> like knows the webserver?
[13:59:27 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> yeah
[13:59:29 EST(-0500)] <sysadmin> how apache ?
[13:59:37 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> I'm trying to figure out how to use mod_proxy_ajp
[13:59:39 EST(-0500)] <athena7> not really - my knowledge is pretty limited
[14:01:42 EST(-0500)] <athena7> i spent the weekend fighting with os x's built in apache and php
[14:02:28 EST(-0500)] <sysadmin> I've only just come across it, looked relatively straightforward, whats up ?
[14:02:57 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> lack of docs mainly
[14:02:58 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> I have:
[14:02:59 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> ProxyRequests Off
[14:02:59 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> <Location /crowd >
[14:02:59 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> ProxyPass ajp://localhost:10105
[14:02:59 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> ProxyPassReverse ajp://localhost:10105
[14:03:00 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> </Location>
[14:03:06 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> in my apache 2.2 config
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[14:03:58 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> but when I try to access the mapped directory the tomcat log says "Invalid command '' received"
[14:04:29 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> and there is a message in the apache error log about "read response failed from (null) (localhost)"
[14:04:40 EST(-0500)] <sysadmin> yup, I think I have used it for trying to proxy zimbra ... looks right
[14:05:38 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> hrm
[14:05:48 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> I may have found a listserv message about this
[14:05:53 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> it says you only need ProxyPass
[14:09:49 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> no luck
[14:11:27 EST(-0500)] <sysadmin> not a final / on the ajp://localhost:10105 type problem is it ?
[14:11:56 EST(-0500)] <apetro_LD830_ubu> http://www.ja-sig.org/wiki/x/SIGp
[14:12:01 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> nope, I now have:
[14:12:01 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> <Location /crowd >
[14:12:02 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> ProxyPass ajp://localhost:10105/crowd
[14:12:02 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> #ProxyPassReverse ajp://localhost:10105/crowd
[14:12:02 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> </Location>
[14:12:19 EST(-0500)] <apetro_LD830_ubu> pitching WebChuckWeb to the webpresence working group. Wondering if I'm totally out of line.
[14:13:15 EST(-0500)] <athena7> what's that?
[14:14:10 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> OMG
[14:14:13 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> smack
[14:14:22 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> 10105 is the SHUTDOWN port
[14:14:44 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> I need to make sure I read my own docs better
[14:16:15 EST(-0500)] <sysadmin> lol
[14:17:32 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> yay it works!
[14:18:10 EST(-0500)] <sysadmin> gratz
[14:18:28 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> again, it helps if you point it at the AJP port isntead of the SHUTDOWN port 
[14:18:37 EST(-0500)] <sysadmin> mine doesnt lol
[14:18:56 EST(-0500)] <lescour> fyi: logged in as admin on the portlet manager page the available options (modify /publish new) are pushed all the way down the page
[14:19:14 EST(-0500)] <lescour> maybe because of the left nav menu?
[14:22:49 EST(-0500)] <athena7> yes
[14:23:04 EST(-0500)] <athena7> it's true, and yes, i think it's because of the table structure
[14:23:26 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> I'm going to see if I can swing re-writing the channel manager as part of UW's upgrade to 3.0
[14:23:34 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> I really don't like that channel
[14:23:37 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> and like its code even less
[14:23:38 EST(-0500)] <athena7> oh oh ohoh!
[14:23:42 EST(-0500)] <athena7> that'd be so great!!
[14:23:48 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> redo it as a portlet
[14:23:51 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> maybe use webflow
[14:24:08 EST(-0500)] <athena7> i'd be happy to help ajaxify things like searching for a channel to edit, if that's useful or desireable
[14:24:20 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> dump the channel registry that for some insane reason keeps an XML DOM of all the channels in memory
[14:24:23 EST(-0500)] <athena7> i've been wanting to declare war on that thing for a while, but i'm not familiar with the code
[14:24:39 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> extend the cpd format to make it even cooler
[14:24:52 EST(-0500)] <athena7> and make it able to edit channels that aren't categorized
[14:25:01 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> yup
[14:25:13 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> we have to do a bunch of customization of it anyways when we do the upgrade
[14:25:17 EST(-0500)] <athena7> that sounds like a very worthy project
[14:25:20 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> so it may be easier just to 'fix it'
[14:25:23 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> yeah
[14:25:23 EST(-0500)] <athena7> yes
[14:25:31 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> I have no idea if I'll actually be able to swing it
[14:25:36 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> but I'll try
[14:25:36 EST(-0500)] <athena7> well, if there's things i can do to help, let me know
[14:25:43 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> and I'll be looking for help here if I do {color}
[14:25:50 EST(-0500)] <athena7> i think i could get yale to agree that it would be a good place to put a few resources
[14:27:07 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> I think my next target after that would be the groups & permissions channels but that is a long ways off
[14:27:15 EST(-0500)] <athena7> yeah
[14:27:20 EST(-0500)] <athena7> both those channels could use work
[14:27:35 EST(-0500)] <athena7> it'd almost be better if they sort of felt like pieces of the same admin utility
[14:27:46 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> yup
[14:27:56 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> get rid of the whole lock/unlock stuff
[14:28:06 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> do a better job exposing the delegated admin features
[14:28:44 EST(-0500)] <athena7> yeah
[14:28:49 EST(-0500)] <athena7> sounds like a good plan
[14:39:40 EST(-0500)] <sysadmin> Sorry, but uPortal encountered an error that is preventing it from rendering. The error must be corrected by system administrators. Try again later.
[14:39:44 EST(-0500)] <sysadmin> argh ... thats me
[14:39:57 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist>
[14:40:01 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> check out portal.log
[14:40:06 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> it should be in TOMCAT_HOME
[14:41:29 EST(-0500)] <sysadmin> not a lot apart from invoking ScriptRunner
[14:41:45 EST(-0500)] <sysadmin> oh, that one
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[14:54:31 EST(-0500)] <sysadmin> damn, another daft mistake, followed the doco ... added the case insensitivity option to mysql and then didnt restart it lol
[15:08:36 EST(-0500)] <athena7> Eric is there any way to pre-populate lists of bookmarks for the quickstart?
[15:12:59 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> hrm
[15:13:20 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> there are a few ways we could do it
[15:13:38 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> we could add the hsql script/log/properties files in the overlay
[15:13:55 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> we could re-configure the bookmarks portlet to connect to the portal DB and use data.xml/tables.xml
[15:15:50 EST(-0500)] <athena7> i was thinking about our default layouts over the weekend
[15:16:01 EST(-0500)] <athena7> it would be really great if we could fix them up a little before the GA ships
[15:16:12 EST(-0500)] <athena7> there's some broken content in there, and a lot of it is pretty stale
[15:16:29 EST(-0500)] <athena7> i'd love to see some of the new content be a little more visible
[15:16:54 EST(-0500)] <athena7> and i was thinking it'd be pretty neat if the guest page or something had the bookmarks portlet pre-populated with useful links - the wiki, email lists, etc.
[15:19:59 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> yeah that would be nice
[15:20:39 EST(-0500)] <athena7> would it be useful if i compiled a list of what was in the current layouts, and what part worked, and what were broken?
[15:21:15 EST(-0500)] <athena7> i'd really like to see it fixed up, and i could help with the layout-definition-editing part, but i don't think i'm the person to make choices about what the layouts should be
[15:23:30 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> That would be a start. The hard part for me is going to be finding time to help a lot with it. I'm pretty busy this week and really trying to get RC2 out ASAP
[15:23:44 EST(-0500)] <athena7> yeah, i wasn't really expecting you to help
[15:24:05 EST(-0500)] <athena7> i guess i'm more fishing to see if there's someone who'd be able to help with the decision-making part in time for the GA
[15:24:18 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> ah
[15:24:26 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> I think that could just be done by polling on the dev list
[15:24:35 EST(-0500)] <athena7> i'd be happy to do the technical part if we thought it was valuable
[15:24:37 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> if no one complains / -1s go with it
[15:24:37 EST(-0500)] <athena7> ok, that sounds fair
[15:24:45 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> that's how I usually do things
[15:24:56 EST(-0500)] <athena7> maybe i can compile the list of what's there and solicit feedback on up-dev, then?
[15:25:49 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> that sounds great
[15:26:32 EST(-0500)] <athena7> ok, great
[15:26:35 EST(-0500)] <athena7> i'll do that then
[15:39:52 EST(-0500)] <athena7> how's the up3 stuff looking?
[15:40:36 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> good
[15:40:44 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> I'm off of it for a bit today working on the new jasig box
[15:40:54 EST(-0500)] <athena7> ooh
[15:40:56 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> but Andrew put together a casclient 2.2.0-M1 release for me
[15:40:57 EST(-0500)] <athena7> new machine?
[15:41:01 EST(-0500)] <athena7> oh great
[15:41:11 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> which has a REALLY_INSECURE mode
[15:41:13 EST(-0500)] <athena7> i saw you say something about that earlier
[15:41:14 EST(-0500)] <athena7> sounds good
[15:41:15 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> that will work over http
[15:41:29 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> yeah .. the new machine we've had for 15 months and are JUST starting to move things to
[15:41:40 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> so I'm going to play with the new casclient tonight
[15:41:47 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> once that is done I'll cut RC2
[15:41:56 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> and we'll be into 'bug fixes ONLY' territory
[15:42:12 EST(-0500)] <athena7> great
[15:42:32 EST(-0500)] <athena7> i have a fix or two i want to make for dlm preferences
[15:42:41 EST(-0500)] <athena7> i thought of a case or two where what's there won't be sufficient
[15:42:46 EST(-0500)] <athena7> but it should be minor
[15:42:59 EST(-0500)] <athena7> figured it would be better to wait until after the rc
[15:44:44 EST(-0500)] <athena7> oh shoot i better run
[15:45:04 EST(-0500)] <athena7> have a good day
[15:45:15 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> you too
[15:51:24 EST(-0500)] <sysadmin> is it possible to do dynamic height iframes in uPortal ?
[15:51:51 EST(-0500)] <sysadmin> simply
[15:53:11 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> do a find for iframe.xsl (I think that is the name of the file). That is what the iframe channel uses to render
[15:53:23 EST(-0500)] <sysadmin> thanks
[15:53:27 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> you can add the nessesary javascript to it to enable dynamic height iframes
[16:06:05 EST(-0500)] <apetro_LD830_ubu> anyone messing around in JA-SIG Hypercontent? The conference seminars announcement disappeared from www.ja-sig.org ...
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