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[11:20:05 EDT(-0400)] * pberry waves to Scott B.
[11:20:33 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> The only person to contribute to irc discussion without actually using irc
[11:21:07 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> 
[11:33:59 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> hey esm any ideas who we can push on to get a minor patch release of a maven plugin done?
[11:34:14 EDT(-0400)] <esm> which plugin
[11:34:20 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> clover
[11:34:21 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MCLOVER-71
[11:35:58 EDT(-0400)] <esm> looks like vincent massol
[11:36:18 EDT(-0400)] <esm> i'd just jump into #maven on irc.codehaus.org and ask
[11:36:23 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> k
[11:36:53 EDT(-0400)] <esm> it looks like there is a workaround though for the bug
[11:37:22 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yeah
[11:37:27 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> if you patch the code
[11:37:39 EDT(-0400)] <esm> ah right now i see
[11:37:51 EDT(-0400)] <esm> setting the TCCL
[11:38:00 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> it works great then ... we can stick our clover license in the jasig-parent pom
[11:38:06 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> and just have it work for all child projects
[11:38:57 EDT(-0400)] <esm> yeah
[11:39:11 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> Scott and I are talking about publishing a patched version in our local repo
[11:39:26 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> just so our stuff works
[11:39:35 EDT(-0400)] <esm> yeah that makes sense
[11:39:39 EDT(-0400)] <esm> that is what i would do
[11:39:54 EDT(-0400)] <esm> its either that or configure it in every pom
[11:40:02 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yup
[11:46:46 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> another maven question for ya
[11:46:57 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> in the -ear module I have the following config:
[11:47:08 EDT(-0400)] <esm> kk
[11:47:16 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> the maven-antrun-plugin
[11:47:28 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> with one execution defined
[11:47:31 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> and "<phase>package</phase>" in it
[11:47:43 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> running "mvn clean site" triggers it though
[11:48:22 EDT(-0400)] <esm> hm. it may be that the site lifecycle runs package.
[11:48:44 EDT(-0400)] <esm> which maven version are you running?
[11:49:09 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> 2.0.6
[11:49:51 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> any idea when 2.1 will be ready?
[11:50:04 EDT(-0400)] <esm> hrm no
[11:50:10 EDT(-0400)] <esm> 2.1 should be a big improvement though
[11:51:29 EDT(-0400)] <esm> http://www.nabble.com/Getting-a-2.1-release-happening-tf4361018s177.html#a12429249
[11:55:02 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> any ideas on how to get my antrun plugin to only run after package is actually called?
[11:55:22 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> the problem when running it when site is called is the artifacts don't actually exist in target so the ant script fails
[11:59:38 EDT(-0400)] <esm> hmm
[12:00:45 EDT(-0400)] <esm> try the verify phase perhaps
[12:00:53 EDT(-0400)] <esm> verify, install, or deploy
[12:09:21 EDT(-0400)] <esm> idon't think that mvn site should execute package.
[12:10:04 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yeah .. it is a bit weird
[12:10:59 EDT(-0400)] <esm> what version of antrun do you have
[12:12:33 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> um
[12:12:39 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> how do I check that?
[12:12:56 EDT(-0400)] <esm> try: mvn help:describe -DgroupId=org.apache.maven.plugins -DartifactId=maven-antrun-plugin
[12:13:19 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> 1.1
[12:14:11 EDT(-0400)] <esm> site should only be trying create reports by default
[12:18:59 EDT(-0400)] <esm> bbiab - lunch
[12:19:45 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> EricDalquist: you using Fusion or Parallel's?
[12:19:53 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> ?
[12:20:14 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> or are you not doing any Windows virtualization on your mac
[12:20:28 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> oh yeah ... I use parallels on my mac at home
[12:20:32 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> ah
[12:20:36 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> thanks
[12:20:38 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I'm only on ubuntu at work
[12:20:47 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> ouch 
[12:20:54 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> heh
[12:21:00 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> much better than windows
[12:21:07 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> oh don't get me wrong...I love linux
[12:21:11 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I quite enjoy having a functional command line
[12:21:13 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> on my servers 8-)
[12:21:27 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> administered by somebody else!
[13:24:46 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> so pberry what session counts were you seeing last week?
[13:25:09 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> oh, pretty busy
[13:25:28 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> basically 1,000+ almost all day
[13:26:16 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> we had some days with 8 hours of averaging over 1,500
[13:26:22 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> sweet
[13:26:23 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> this is split across two servers though
[13:26:30 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> but yeah, we love it
[13:26:30 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> sounds about like our numbers
[13:26:34 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> we have 7 servers
[13:26:44 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> and right now I'm seeing 650-700 sessions per server
[13:26:44 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> yeah, we do a lot less in our portal
[13:26:59 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> first day of students back today
[13:27:26 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> we don't have a lot of developers, so we use web proxy and just use the portal to get people to the stand alone services (PeopleSoft, WebCT Vista, E-Mail)
[13:27:55 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> My personal opinion is that the portal is not a good UI to wrap around another application
[13:28:40 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yeah
[13:28:47 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> this is a typical "start of term" graph for us http://seaborn.csuchico.edu/stats/portal/index.cgi?Machine=All&Type=Hours&Field=registeredusers&Month=9&Day=4&Year=2007&Hour=6&Finish=11&Combined=selected&.submit=Submit&.cgifields=Combined&.cgifields=Machine
[13:28:51 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I'm a fan of summary widgets with sso into the real app
[13:29:02 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> yeah, we're moving more and more that way
[13:29:13 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> instead of just sso
[13:30:42 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> log into the portal and see summaries of all your info
[13:30:50 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> then you can make informed clicks to the rest of the services
[13:31:36 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> yup
[13:38:32 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> we hooked up the portal stats to twitter http://blogs.csuchico.edu/ik/2007/08/31/experimenting-with-twitter/
[13:38:35 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> just because
[13:43:50 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> bapper: you're right, Parallels does suck up a lot of CPU when idle
[13:44:26 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yeah, I see parallels doing that too
[13:44:47 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> man, my tab completion when bonkers on that
[13:44:54 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> though I only use it for short bits now and then when updating quicken
[13:44:58 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> lol
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[15:26:21 EDT(-0400)] <jayshao_> I like Fusion much better
[15:26:31 EDT(-0400)] <jayshao_> Parallels used to give me kernel panics
[15:26:36 EDT(-0400)] <jayshao_> I think they might have fixed that though
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[15:33:57 EDT(-0400)] <jayshao_> EricDalquist – can you use JMX to tweak Log4j?
[15:52:23 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> hey, just back from a meeting
[15:52:31 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> there is some sandbox code in the log4j project for doing that
[15:58:45 EDT(-0400)] <esm> heh
[15:59:00 EDT(-0400)] <esm> i just installed log4j 1.2.15 via m2.
[15:59:11 EDT(-0400)] <esm> it depends on a couple jmx libs
[15:59:17 EDT(-0400)] <esm> and jms libs
[15:59:21 EDT(-0400)] <esm> ugh.
[15:59:27 EDT(-0400)] <esm> bbiab
[15:59:39 EDT(-0400)] <esm> i'm switching to slf4j jfor my projects i think
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