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[10:59:48 EDT(-0400)] * EricDalquist can't wait for FF3
[11:00:05 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yeah 
[11:00:18 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I'd be using it right now if all of my extensions worked
[11:02:39 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yeah definitely
[11:02:45 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> i need my extensions though
[11:02:48 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yup
[11:02:54 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> plus i wanted to wait until i'd finished the theme
[11:03:05 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> just in case
[11:03:07 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> well the three big ones, firebug, google toolbar and gmarks don't yet work 
[11:03:09 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yeah
[11:03:18 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> though I just tried the up3 qs on ff3
[11:03:20 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> works great
[11:03:26 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> renders much faster than in ff2
[11:08:16 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> oh that's great
[11:08:59 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> argh
[11:09:08 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> ?
[11:09:20 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> this stupid postgres problem is going to drive me insane
[11:09:24 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> ah
[11:09:30 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> :/
[11:09:37 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I'm really at a loss as to what could be going on
[11:09:39 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> hopefully we can fix that someday
[11:09:40 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> i know
[11:09:49 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> did you ever get sql parameter tracing working?
[11:09:49 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> initportal works
[11:09:55 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> but individual imports don't
[11:09:59 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> which really sucks
[11:10:04 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> no
[11:10:15 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> but i did figure out what the parameter was anyway
[11:10:46 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> the other thing to look at would be transaction tracing
[11:11:06 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> actually that's a good idea
[11:11:12 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> i think that's more likely to be the culprit
[11:11:21 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> see if you can figure out if something is closing the tx at the wrong time
[11:11:49 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yeah
[11:13:48 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> you know I was thinking about layout customization a bit more last night and with the broken-up XSL that Gary put in place I think we're in a good position to look at switching to an integrated-modes style UI for 3.1
[11:14:00 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> Peter had it working against SLM
[11:14:19 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> and it would be much nicer than continuing to maintain the user prefs channel
[11:14:23 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> what exactly does integrated modes mean?
[11:14:30 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> so that was introduced with ALM
[11:14:45 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> the idea that when you click customize the UI is still rendered by the theme XSL
[11:14:49 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yeah
[11:14:56 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> i just mean in practice
[11:15:06 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> we've sort of gone that way with the ajax interface
[11:15:10 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yup
[11:15:17 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> but there are still a lot of missing features
[11:15:23 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> and that is really what we're going for I think
[11:15:31 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yeah
[11:15:37 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> getting away from the prefs channel where it renders the whole layout again inside the actual layout
[11:15:45 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yeah
[11:16:00 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> having 'real' integrated modes is part of what made it easy for peter to add DnD to the sandbox
[11:16:06 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> including cross tab dnd
[11:16:08 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> gotcha
[11:16:11 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> well
[11:16:18 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> cross tabs dnd is simple from the java side
[11:16:24 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> since all layout operations were run through a simple URL API
[11:16:32 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> the backend code definitely isn't the problem there
[11:16:42 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I guess that is the core of it ... cleaning up the uPortal URL synatax, generation and processing
[11:16:45 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yeah
[11:16:48 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> we need a javascript framework that doesn't make it torturous
[11:16:54 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist>
[11:17:43 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> argh, i forget why this is broken
[11:18:14 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> i guess my user id isn't in useful groups?
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