[12:53:15 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> 10:52a MST. Still too early for Jasper
[13:49:46 CDT(-0500)] <tbain> methinks it is ALWAYS too early for Jasper...
[13:50:13 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> you guys used it on cccc(cc)(ccccc), right?
[13:50:19 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> but as a standalone server?
[13:52:41 CDT(-0500)] <tbain> yeah, we used it on CCCCCCC (I was, thankfully, not involved in it - Parker went through quite a bit of training on it though), I'm not entirely sure what the setup for it was
[13:54:33 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> thx. i might have a chat with him...
[14:44:16 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon> liquibaseageddon is almost upon us
[15:08:55 CDT(-0500)] <GregElliott> Hi, all. Just got off the phone with IRSC, and they got their first PROD early alert, and they were all abuzz about that. So, keep up the good work!!!!
[15:09:21 CDT(-0500)] <tbain1> How Exciting!
[15:09:24 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon> mazel tov
[15:10:13 CDT(-0500)] <js70> wait till they see the first late alert. then the excitement will be unstoppable!
[15:11:16 CDT(-0500)] <GregElliott> in that event, they'll likely just have hit the snooze button a few times too often.
[15:11:42 CDT(-0500)] <GregElliott> but really, great work from all of ya.
[15:14:24 CDT(-0500)] <js70> anything less would be unacceptable.:^)
[15:14:51 CDT(-0500)] <GregElliott> now, on to the next 40 or 50 schools.
[15:14:57 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon> Jim sorry I havn't checked in my stuff yet
[15:15:03 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon> just trying to make sure it wont stop you in your tracks
[15:16:24 CDT(-0500)] <js70> np. i never test my stuff anyway. no need.
[15:16:38 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon> kiss blow a kiss to the sky before you check in?
[15:16:56 CDT(-0500)] <js70> its all in the training.
[15:17:13 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon> I just assume I have 20 errors
[15:17:23 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon> thankfully hibernate is fast falling and its easy to catch
[15:17:58 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon> fast failing
[15:18:00 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon> too
[15:18:05 CDT(-0500)] <js70> its liquibase thats a pain in the a_s
[15:18:12 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon> eh
[15:18:27 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon> as far as schema evolution tools go its better than what ive used in the past
[15:18:36 CDT(-0500)] <js70> just kidding.
[15:18:49 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon> and its the only database agnostic one ive used
[15:18:55 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon> but yeah its tedious
[15:19:04 CDT(-0500)] <js70> xml is so 2000
[15:19:12 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon> i do hate xml
[15:19:33 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon> but id rather xml than some proprietary query language
[15:19:38 CDT(-0500)] <js70> i'm old enough to remember the excitement. xml-xsl applications for everyone!!!
[15:19:50 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon> ive done some of that stuff
[15:19:57 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon> also tedious
[15:20:02 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> https://github.com/tlberglund/groovy-liquibase
[15:20:27 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> and if you're not familiar w/ mr berglund, look him up sometime...
[15:21:11 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon> what is his full name do you know? looks like there are car dealerships with the same name
[15:21:24 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> tim
[15:21:58 CDT(-0500)] <js70> anybody that translates dutch into english is ok by me
[15:21:59 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> http://timberglund.com/
[15:22:15 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon> ty
[15:22:49 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> the maven stuff there is good
[15:22:52 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> but this is priceless… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QbheQitF74
[15:23:12 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> plus he entertained my kid for a while at an uberconf a while back
[15:25:31 CDT(-0500)] <GregElliott> (1:19:12 PM) TonyUnicon: i do hate xml
[15:25:49 CDT(-0500)] <GregElliott> wow, I was just having this conversation last week with Matt Polizotti in the office.
[15:26:17 CDT(-0500)] <GregElliott> if ya'll don't watch out, you are in danger of morphing into UX guys!
[15:26:38 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon> gasp
[15:26:50 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon> my jeans are not tight enough!
[15:27:10 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon> and I wear non-ironic tshirts
[15:27:18 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon> 
[15:27:33 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon> js70 data model changes are in
[15:27:34 CDT(-0500)] <GregElliott> so you have little toys lying around on your desk?
[15:27:44 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon> if you can pull it down and let me know if it blows up on you
[15:27:52 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon> well I do have some star war models
[15:27:53 CDT(-0500)] <js70> k
[15:28:04 CDT(-0500)] <GregElliott> there...ya...go.
[15:28:14 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon> did I just say that outload?
[15:28:30 CDT(-0500)] <GregElliott> ha
[15:28:36 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon> hehe
[15:29:57 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon> the new fields won't make it to the client yet because I have not touched the transfer objects yet
[15:30:02 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon> that will be part of the API work
[15:30:22 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon> which will start in earnest after I grab some jello
[15:30:42 CDT(-0500)] <js70> hmmm jello
[15:31:03 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon> sugar free jello - yolo
[15:33:16 CDT(-0500)] <js70> I meant yuuum. my brain is frozen
[15:39:36 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon> I thought you were judging me
[16:14:16 CDT(-0500)] <JasonElwood> just realized I wasn't on here all day.
[16:14:30 CDT(-0500)] <js70> we missed you.
[16:14:34 CDT(-0500)] <JasonElwood> question about external_course_program and external_program
[16:14:35 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> tony got jello
[16:14:51 CDT(-0500)] <js70> greg was complementary
[16:14:57 CDT(-0500)] <JasonElwood> you're a weird dude Tony. a weird dude
[16:15:12 CDT(-0500)] <JasonElwood> and so was Jim. thanks Jim
[16:16:52 CDT(-0500)] <JasonElwood> the two tables have no relation, primarily because we don't have any fk in external data. I just want to confirm that external_course_program is used for the available course filter and external_program is used in the template definition. there is no relation between the two.
[16:16:54 CDT(-0500)] <JasonElwood> code or data
[16:20:44 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> TonyUnicon do you have a quick answer for that one?
[16:21:21 CDT(-0500)] <JasonElwood> we do have fk for the course_code I see
[16:22:09 CDT(-0500)] <js70> yeah, thats a tony question.
[16:31:52 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon> sorry bak
[16:32:54 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon> right
[16:33:08 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon> template will have a programCode
[16:33:22 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon> which will be a soft reference to something in the external_program table
[16:33:29 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon> and external_course_program is used to filter
[16:33:42 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon> does that answer your question?
[16:33:46 CDT(-0500)] <JasonElwood> soft reference meaning code and name will be duplicated in each with no direct reference
[16:33:56 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon> meaning code
[16:34:13 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon> if we need the name we'd fetch it from the program store
[16:34:53 CDT(-0500)] <JasonElwood> name exists in both though. so I just need to know which part of the app will use which table
[16:34:59 CDT(-0500)] <JasonElwood> because they could conflict
[16:35:43 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon> i actually dont know what program_name is there
[16:35:46 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon> why*
[16:36:23 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon> dmccallum54 do you remember why it's there?