[13:04:42 CDT(-0500)] <drewwills1> thanks btw EricDalquist, for excellent coverage of the uPlatform concept
[13:04:57 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> np
[13:05:39 CDT(-0500)] <drewwills1> it's nice to show ssp around a bit again, since at the conference there wasn't much of the new version to show
[13:05:48 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> yeah
[13:05:52 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> it looks pretty cool
[13:05:57 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> I need to email russ about bamboo
[13:06:30 CDT(-0500)] <drewwills1> cool
[13:13:15 CDT(-0500)] <chris_cousquer> hi
[13:13:54 CDT(-0500)] <chris_cousquer> does ssp have sencha touch in it ?
[13:15:48 CDT(-0500)] <drewwills1> i don't think so, chris... not at this point
[13:16:11 CDT(-0500)] <chris_cousquer> ok great
[13:16:18 CDT(-0500)] <drewwills1> it uses the extjs framework for rendering the UI in a browser
[13:16:36 CDT(-0500)] <chris_cousquer> oh yeah that 's it
[13:17:00 CDT(-0500)] <drewwills1> we need to develop our mobile plans more clearly
[13:17:16 CDT(-0500)] <drewwills1> some of the tools are probably too heavy to simply port to mobile
[13:17:23 CDT(-0500)] <chris_cousquer> I've got problem with extjs and fluid in some french portlet
[13:17:27 CDT(-0500)] <drewwills1> but the early alert would be a great mobile tool
[13:17:40 CDT(-0500)] <drewwills1> using them together? or either?
[13:17:47 CDT(-0500)] <chris_cousquer> yeah
[13:18:09 CDT(-0500)] <chris_cousquer> extjs enters in conflict with fluid
[13:18:12 CDT(-0500)] <chris_cousquer> and
[13:19:01 CDT(-0500)] <chris_cousquer> some UX (old ones…) included prototype.js witch enter in conflict with jQuery
[13:19:10 CDT(-0500)] <chris_cousquer> :-@
[13:19:27 CDT(-0500)] <drewwills1> only 1 portlet uses extjs at this point, the big one
[13:20:03 CDT(-0500)] <drewwills1> which we deploy on its own tab, without portlet chrome (at least that''s how we do it)
[13:20:17 CDT(-0500)] <drewwills1> there would still be fluid in other page components though
[13:20:38 CDT(-0500)] <drewwills1> i think we'll have to troubleshoot when we get there
[13:21:29 CDT(-0500)] <chris_cousquer> somethimes with etxjs (the last version) the equivalent of jQuery's ready() (Ithink it's onready()) didn't fire
[13:21:55 CDT(-0500)] <chris_cousquer> so for extjs the DOm is never ready...
[13:22:27 CDT(-0500)] <drewwills1> do you think it has some connection with french?
[13:22:34 CDT(-0500)] <chris_cousquer> nope
[13:22:35 CDT(-0500)] <drewwills1> or internationalization?
[13:22:42 CDT(-0500)] <chris_cousquer> it's extjs
[13:22:54 CDT(-0500)] <chris_cousquer> morehover
[13:23:44 CDT(-0500)] <chris_cousquer> extjs implement Microsoft box model by default to firefox chrome & safari
[13:23:55 CDT(-0500)] <chris_cousquer> the crappy one
[13:25:13 CDT(-0500)] <drewwills1> shawn gormly is doing the UX work... i haven't looked too closely at how it uses the DOM, perhaps he has
[13:27:41 CDT(-0500)] <drewwills1> were any of these concerns related to load?
[13:28:04 CDT(-0500)] <chris_cousquer> you can see on the body tag the classe .x-border-box
[13:28:44 CDT(-0500)] <chris_cousquer> it apply box-sizing : border-box
[13:29:02 CDT(-0500)] <chris_cousquer> and then see : https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/CSS/box-sizing
[13:29:27 CDT(-0500)] <drewwills1> <body id="portal" class="up fl-theme-mist x-body x-webkit x-chrome x-reset">
[13:29:37 CDT(-0500)] <chris_cousquer> yes
[13:29:52 CDT(-0500)] <chris_cousquer> The https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/CSS/width and https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/CSS/height properties include the padding and border, but not the margin. This is the https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/CSS/Box_model used by Internet Explorer when the document is in Quirks mode.
[13:32:08 CDT(-0500)] <chris_cousquer> so it's funny uP reset the css for all browser and after that etxjs put the crappy box model for every one...
[13:35:15 CDT(-0500)] <chris_cousquer> oh no sorry it's ok for you you don't have .x-border-box do-you have pick up the body tag in Internet explorer ?
[13:35:15 CDT(-0500)] <drewwills1> i'm sending these notes to shawn... what's the consequence of the change in box model? I don't see a visual change (afaik), but perhaps by this point it's been skinned to account for that
[13:35:37 CDT(-0500)] <drewwills1> i can check that
[13:35:56 CDT(-0500)] <chris_cousquer> was it in firefox ?
[13:36:40 CDT(-0500)] <drewwills1> that was chrome
[13:36:46 CDT(-0500)] <drewwills1> this is IE: <body id="portal" class="up fl-theme-mist">
[13:37:12 CDT(-0500)] <chris_cousquer> can you test firefox ?
[13:37:21 CDT(-0500)] <drewwills1> that may not be right for IE
[13:38:28 CDT(-0500)] <drewwills1> up fl-theme-mist x-body x-gecko x-reset
[13:38:32 CDT(-0500)] <drewwills1> that's FF
[13:38:44 CDT(-0500)] <chris_cousquer> ok you are ok
[13:39:06 CDT(-0500)] <drewwills1> i'll still point shawn this way
[13:39:59 CDT(-0500)] <chris_cousquer> if you see "box-sizing : border-box" it's very bad
[13:42:42 CDT(-0500)] <chris_cousquer> we've got this in france and it change the layout of other jasig's portlets
[13:44:15 CDT(-0500)] <chris_cousquer> so I remove 95% of etxjs 's css, it's more light for me now 
[13:44:25 CDT(-0500)] <drewwills1> hah! nice
[13:44:51 CDT(-0500)] <chris_cousquer> it damn too heavy for me
[13:45:24 CDT(-0500)] <drewwills1> we are experiencing some load slowness
[13:46:13 CDT(-0500)] <drewwills1> there's an extjs-provided (iirc) facility for minnified builds of your JS, and we've discovered it improves things quite a bit
[13:46:24 CDT(-0500)] <drewwills1> i don't have it turned on yet on my local