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[16:36:43 CDT(-0500)] <deuce_> hey is anyone working on organizing the webapp crud?
[16:38:09 CDT(-0500)] <deuce_> this room is hopping
[16:38:21 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum> i'll pipe down
[16:51:22 CDT(-0500)] <peterk> you mean spring config files?
[16:54:36 CDT(-0500)] <deuce_> that and other things (jsp, messages, xsl...)
[16:54:55 CDT(-0500)] <deuce_> messages is something new i'm about to add 
[16:55:15 CDT(-0500)] <peterk> and you're saying it's going to be a mess eh ?
[16:55:29 CDT(-0500)] <deuce_> not really .. just unorganized
[16:55:38 CDT(-0500)] <deuce_> i mean it's already a bit of a mess
[16:56:04 CDT(-0500)] <peterk> I dont' think anyone is working on reorganizing them right now. Reshuffling spring config files is something I'd like to do before the release (for order, and more objectively to minimize cross-scope references)
[16:56:18 CDT(-0500)] <deuce_> i was wondering if anyone was already working on cleaning stuff up .. if not, i'll just check in what i have and throw more on the heap
[16:56:26 CDT(-0500)] <peterk> you're welcome to change it around, but be careful with classpath issues
[16:56:34 CDT(-0500)] <deuce_> i'll hold off
[16:56:35 CDT(-0500)] <deuce_>
[16:56:41 CDT(-0500)] <peterk> btw., what are messages ?
[16:57:08 CDT(-0500)] <deuce_> spring messages
[16:57:16 CDT(-0500)] <deuce_> from portlet mvc
[16:57:32 CDT(-0500)] <peterk> ok. which portlet will be portlet mvc ?
[16:57:43 CDT(-0500)] <deuce_> mvc
[16:57:50 CDT(-0500)] <deuce_> oh .. permissions
[16:57:57 CDT(-0500)] <peterk> cool
[16:58:04 CDT(-0500)] <peterk> new design?
[16:58:06 CDT(-0500)] <deuce_> i'm about to check in the initial working version
[16:58:18 CDT(-0500)] <deuce_> um .. yeah, but not what you think
[16:58:25 CDT(-0500)] <deuce_> we dumbed it way down
[16:58:30 CDT(-0500)] <deuce_> but it's still ugly
[16:58:31 CDT(-0500)] <peterk> it needed that
[16:58:40 CDT(-0500)] <peterk> not the ugly part, but the simplified part
[16:58:45 CDT(-0500)] <deuce_> yea!
[16:58:59 CDT(-0500)] * peterk wishes we could get some designers working with us
[16:59:20 CDT(-0500)] <peterk> that new skin task could really use it - that will make a huge difference in the release
[16:59:30 CDT(-0500)] <deuce_> they are a company-wide department
[16:59:38 CDT(-0500)] <peterk> which means?
[16:59:45 CDT(-0500)] <deuce_> it seems that everyone pulls at them
[16:59:56 CDT(-0500)] <peterk> hmm
[17:00:07 CDT(-0500)] <peterk> then we just need to pull harder than others
[17:00:11 CDT(-0500)] <deuce_> meaning if you really needed some design work, you could probably get them if you shouted loud enough
[17:00:15 CDT(-0500)] <deuce_> yup!
[17:00:17 CDT(-0500)] <deuce_>
[17:01:00 CDT(-0500)] <peterk> it's hard to be loud from 3k miles away though
[17:01:33 CDT(-0500)] <deuce_> not for you
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