uPortal IRC Logs-2008-03-25

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[10:09:36 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> Hi everyone
[10:12:47 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> morning
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[10:23:52 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> hey eric, i had a question about this JIRA: http://www.ja-sig.org/issues/browse/UP-1896 (changing the resource laoder getResourceAsDocument method to be non-validating)
[10:23:59 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> ok
[10:24:09 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> it seems pretty straightforward and i'm happy to take care of it if that's helpful
[10:24:22 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> that would be great
[10:24:34 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> feel free to take on any of those jira issues (smile)
[10:24:36 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> i just wondered if the method in EntityPropertyRegistry should be set to validate=true
[10:24:45 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> hrm
[10:25:04 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> i did a grep of the source code, and that's the only other place that method is currently being used beyond the other three that were changed to validate=true in the patch
[10:25:58 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> so to keep the behavior the same, i guess we'd need to add that parameter - i'm just not sure what's actually desired
[10:26:10 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> since EntityPropertyRegistry.xml doesn't appear to have a DTD I'd assume validate=false
[10:26:17 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> ok
[10:26:27 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> i'll check that in this morning then
[10:27:42 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> great
[10:27:46 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> how's the UI work going?
[10:30:55 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> good
[10:31:08 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> great (smile)
[10:31:30 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> talked to gary for a while yesterday, i think he should have things done in plenty of time for me to edit all the layout docs (smile)
[10:32:19 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> wonderful, it will be very good to get updated content to go with our updated theme and portal
[10:33:07 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yeah
[10:33:20 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> i'm sure we'll need to modify it again, but this will at least be a first step
[10:33:36 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> oh, do you have any insight into the intended purpose of the demo account?
[10:34:17 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> i know at yale it's the one account we've kept around to let people without CAS accounts get a feel for the portal
[10:35:07 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> by default, it seems to be a demo of random uportal capability, although a lot of it is arcane stuff like those ICC channels
[10:35:19 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> no, I'm rather visonless in general with regard to the layouts :/
[10:35:53 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> lol ok
[10:36:11 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> neither of us were quite sure what it's intended purpose in life is
[10:36:21 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> i think i'd really like to make the admin layout a lot smaller
[10:36:25 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> there's a whole pile of tabs
[10:36:32 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> which are in danger of falling off the edge
[10:36:46 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yeah that would be good
[10:36:53 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> simplication is probably a good idea
[10:36:58 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yeah
[10:37:03 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> and also reviewing what is show where so tabs can be more focused
[10:37:11 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yeah
[10:37:56 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> hm, i seem to now be getting two versions of all the pluto stuff in shared/lib
[10:38:51 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> try doing a 'ant clean deploy-ear'
[10:39:11 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> oh you're right, clean is probably the one thing i didn't do
[10:39:13 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> cleaned shared
[10:39:16 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> well
[10:39:20 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> i bet i didn't clean out the target itself
[10:39:21 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> clean also cleans up the maven build files
[10:39:25 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yeah
[10:39:26 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yeah
[10:39:30 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> thanks (smile)
[10:39:32 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yup
[10:48:38 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> so any suggestions for when we should do the svn move of up2 to uPortal?
[10:51:31 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> i don't know - i guess if we're going to do it sooner would be better than later?
[10:51:37 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yeah
[10:51:42 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> does it make sense to do it before the next RC maybe?
[10:51:55 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> so I'm planning on doing it before the next RC
[10:52:09 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> sounds good to me (smile)
[10:52:09 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> which means sometime between now and Friday morning
[10:52:12 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> but
[10:52:36 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> how does Thursday morning sound?
[10:52:39 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> sure
[10:52:55 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> i can just do an svn switch whenever it's completed
[10:52:59 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> shouldn't be a big deal
[11:01:42 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> oh hm
[11:02:03 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> before i resolve any more tickets, should we have an RC3 release we're marking issues as fixed for?
[11:02:39 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I'm just going to rename 3.0.0 to RC3
[11:02:55 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> oh ok, that makes perfect sense
[11:02:56 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> great
[11:21:15 EDT(-0400)] <esm> EricDalquist: the 1.1.5 artifacts are out in public maven repos
[11:21:20 EDT(-0400)] <esm> for pluto
[11:21:40 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> saw that and updated uportal last night, thanks!
[11:21:44 EDT(-0400)] <esm> i am going to send teh announce later
[11:21:45 EDT(-0400)] <esm> ok
[11:21:52 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> that update let us remove the XML libs from shared/lib
[11:21:55 EDT(-0400)] <esm> yup
[11:22:07 EDT(-0400)] <esm> good stuff
[11:22:07 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> which I'm very happy about
[11:22:21 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I had a bad feeling about endless problems caused by those in a shared loader
[11:22:47 EDT(-0400)] <esm> uh-huh no doubt
[11:23:17 EDT(-0400)] <esm> hmm
[11:23:32 EDT(-0400)] <esm> i can scroll UP with my mighty mouse but i cannot scroll DOWN.
[11:23:33 EDT(-0400)] <esm> wtf
[11:24:40 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> that's not so helpful
[11:24:47 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> or mighty
[11:24:51 EDT(-0400)] <esm-lunch> yeah!
[11:24:57 EDT(-0400)] <esm-lunch> ok off to lunch.
[11:25:03 EDT(-0400)] <esm-lunch> maybe it will fix itself over lunch
[11:25:06 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> lol
[11:25:08 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> maybe (smile)
[11:25:23 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> that's like when i tell andy i'm going home to let the code gremlins fix my bugs overnight
[11:25:31 EDT(-0400)] <esm-lunch> that was/is my first solution for everything. seriously sometimes it works. (smile)
[11:25:34 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> lol
[11:25:49 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> he generally seems unconvinced.
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[13:25:00 EDT(-0400)] <esm> lunch did not fix my mouse.
[13:25:08 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> lol
[13:25:20 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I returned the mighty mouse I tried
[13:25:27 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I always rest my fingers on the mouse
[13:25:32 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> so I had a heck of a time right clicking
[13:25:40 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> and I missed my clicky scroll wheel
[13:26:16 EDT(-0400)] <esm> ah. My first one broke. My current one is weird: it sometimes doesn't right click - i have to turn the mouse off and then on again (its wireless)
[13:26:24 EDT(-0400)] <esm> and now the scroll button doesn't scroll down.
[13:26:32 EDT(-0400)] <esm> perhaps a reboot of my mac will fix it.
[13:26:39 EDT(-0400)] <esm> but i'm generally unimpressed.
[13:26:45 EDT(-0400)] <esm> i like the mouse but its freakin expensive
[13:26:57 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yeah
[13:27:24 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> problem is I can't find any other full size bluetooth mice (and ones that don't use some pseudo bluetooth dongle)
[13:28:06 EDT(-0400)] <esm> interesting. yeah i've never looked for another mouse.
[13:28:53 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> all the BT mice I've found that work as a standard HID are the ultra-portable mini-mice
[13:29:04 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> and all the full sized ones have a cradle or a dongle or something
[13:29:15 EDT(-0400)] <esm> dongle bad
[13:29:18 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yeah
[13:29:29 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> rather annoying on a machine that has built in bluetooth
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[14:20:40 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> hey athena7 you aren't doing any portlet work with the UI work are you?
[14:20:50 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> nope
[14:20:59 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> ok
[14:21:01 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> although there is an issue with the google portlet in up3
[14:21:10 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> the bottom border gets all weird
[14:21:13 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I'm going to go make final releases of the three that are still snapshots
[14:21:14 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> ah
[14:21:15 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yeah
[14:21:21 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I'll see if I can figure that out
[14:21:26 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> i don't know if we need some sort of wrapper div in there
[14:21:30 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> that'd be great if you have time to do that
[14:21:40 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> since i think we'll probably want to make that portlet pretty visible
[14:25:32 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> gary updated the layout planning page today if anyone's interested
[14:27:41 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I'll have to take a look
[15:12:35 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> ticket list is shrinking (smile)
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[15:43:08 EDT(-0400)] <EiNZTEiN> howdy everyone
[15:43:22 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> hey
[15:56:06 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> hiya
[15:56:14 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> is the sitemap working in up3 for other people?
[16:22:34 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> grrr, eclipse freezes too much
[16:23:29 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> drew wills clued me in to the fact that if you turn all the mylyn off, it suddenly stops freezing
[16:23:39 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> made a huge difference for me
[16:24:24 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> that and upgrading to the version that wasn't horribly broken under os 10.5
[16:25:53 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> I'll have to check that out
[16:26:12 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> Where do you turn the mylyn stuff off? Is it in window->preferences?
[16:28:30 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> if you go to help -> software updates -> manage configuration
[16:28:42 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> then expand the little tree, you can see the mylyn stuff
[16:28:56 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> then do right click -> disable on the individual mylyn packages
[16:29:17 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> it's kind of a pain because there are a lot of dependencies, so you sort of have to find the right ones to disable first by trial and error
[16:29:25 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> but it does tell you what ones the ones it won't remove rely on
[16:29:31 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> so that you can go turn those off first
[16:29:42 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> you don't actually have to restart until you finish turning things off
[16:30:00 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> but yeah, it seems to help with that thing where you do something simple and eclipse hangs forever
[16:31:18 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> cool, thanks
[16:34:52 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> np, i really appreciated drew mentioning that
[16:34:59 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> it's nice to actually be able to use your IDE
[16:38:49 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> Ya really. Half the time, I think its MyEclipse's validation crap that freezes mine. It has a validator for every type of file.
[16:41:22 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yeah i've yet to try myeclipse
[16:41:39 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> even the non-my eclipse versions have gotten pretty complex these days
[16:50:58 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> ok, i'm heading out
[16:50:58 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> have a good night (smile)
[16:54:44 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> you too, see ya
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[17:29:26 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> Does anyone know if there is some sort of standard or preferred way of including CSS in portlets? So far, we've been including it with the framework instead of with the portlet for various reasons...but in doing the weather portlet I want to minimize configuration.
[17:29:53 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> no, there is no 'official' way in portlet1.0
[17:30:03 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> dang
[17:30:05 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I've just broken the html rules and included the link in the body
[17:30:15 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> it isn't correct HTML wise but it works :/
[17:30:24 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> ya ok
[17:31:03 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> You know if they're providing that functionality in the next standard?
[17:31:21 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I think so
[17:31:47 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I think there are 'resource links' or some such
[17:33:25 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;ct=res&amp;cd=6&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fus.apachecon.com%2Fus2007%2Fdownloads%2FApacheConUS2007-T2007-JSR-286.pdf&amp;ei=TW_pR6jEPJGsiAGBzrW9BQ&amp;usg=AFQjCNFvNr89ZI2uOZWS203jLm-s7hnEXg&amp;sig2=uWBY2VvYP8_gEyMwNBdPMA
[17:33:27 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> oops
[17:33:36 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> http://us.apachecon.com/us2007/downloads/ApacheConUS2007-T2007-JSR-286.pdf
[17:36:43 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> ya, looks like its possible
[17:36:46 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> cool
[17:36:48 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yeah
[17:36:57 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> there are a lot of very interesting things in jsr-266
[17:37:08 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> wonder how long before it becomes mainstream
[17:37:13 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> events will be great
[17:37:18 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> well the spec is pretty much final I believe
[17:37:25 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> now the work is getting pluto 2.0 complete
[17:37:34 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> since that is the reference impl
[17:37:41 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> ah
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