uPortal IRC Logs-2008-04-08

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[09:53:40 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> so it turns out that the casproxyservlet is actually mismapped in the filter
[09:54:02 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> ah
[09:54:08 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> is that what has been causing that stack trace?
[09:54:12 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yes probably (smile)
[09:54:21 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> at least, it seems to be gone now
[09:54:42 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> it hadn't occurred to me to look for something that simple
[09:55:01 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> cool (smile)
[09:55:45 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> woo committed
[09:56:19 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yay
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[09:56:50 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> any current thoughts on the release timeline?
[09:57:26 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> well, right now my hope is the middle of next week
[09:57:35 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I'm going to take a look at the remaining issues today
[09:57:48 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I'm also trying to find my YourKit license and do some basic load testing
[09:58:05 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> and the manual needs some serious work
[09:58:14 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> at least to fix all the changed paths
[09:58:31 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> so we'll see how much I can get done this week and get other people to help with (smile)
[09:58:32 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> if there's specific places that i can help, let me know
[09:59:58 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> will do ... right now I'm mainly working on recruiting people to go through the manual and update areas they are familiar with
[10:00:15 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> sounds like a good plan (smile)
[10:00:17 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> perhaps you could look into theme/skin related sections to describe where the files are and such?
[10:00:32 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> sure
[10:00:57 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> thanks (smile) don't feel pressured though, you've already done quite a bit for up3
[10:01:20 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> well i'll at least look over it and see if there's anything glaring and easy to fix
[10:01:25 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> theme file location, etc.
[10:01:48 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> thanks
[10:04:33 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> ok
[10:04:45 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> i changed the drag and drop preferences page to be factually correct
[10:04:51 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> lol
[10:05:06 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> since the enabling is now controlled by a parameter in universality.xsl, not in the dlm file
[10:05:08 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> (smile)
[10:05:37 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> so the customizing section is incomplete, but doesn't include anything that's incorrect
[10:05:53 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> if i get time, i'll try and document some of the configuration parameters in the new theme
[10:06:43 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> i'm just glad this is all happening while kris is gone, because otherwise i'd probably have a lot less time to help
[10:06:43 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> lol
[10:07:20 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> (smile)
[10:07:32 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> thanks, yeah fixing wrong data is probably the most important
[10:35:26 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yeah
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[11:56:44 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> athena7_: you run uP3 over SSL right?
[11:59:32 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> heh so I have an idea for why the revert to default fails
[11:59:47 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> the crn import-user script hardcodes the default layout user id to 1
[12:01:10 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> no, i don't
[12:01:16 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> but yes, i was wondering that
[12:01:25 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> actually it doesn't hard code it
[12:01:26 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> we have up3 running over ssl on our test server though
[12:01:32 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> but it doesn't calculate it correctly
[12:01:48 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> ah so the ssl question, I still see the cas stack trace after pulling in your web.xml update
[12:01:50 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> ok, i thought that it might be related to the user ids being unstandardized
[12:02:00 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> ah, hm.
[12:02:04 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> oh!
[12:02:05 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yes
[12:02:08 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> if you run over ssl
[12:02:12 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> you'll need to edit the web.xml
[12:02:16 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> because the link isn't relative
[12:02:20 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> so that totally makes sense
[12:02:21 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I don't though
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[12:02:29 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> oh, ok
[12:02:30 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> hm
[12:02:37 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I'll double check it
[12:02:42 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I'm going to go track down Drew
[12:02:43 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> so i wonder why i stopped seeing it
[12:03:06 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> it looks like the import user script tries to find the template user in the up_user table
[12:03:17 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> but there is no assurance that the template user gets imported first
[12:04:39 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> ah, crap
[12:04:45 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> i think i forgot to fix the other problem
[12:04:59 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> (smile)
[12:05:17 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> which is that the cas proxy url is listed as https://localhost:8080/cas/proxy
[12:05:20 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> rather than http
[12:05:22 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> that may be it
[12:05:37 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> ah
[12:06:47 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> ok, just committed that change
[12:06:52 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> so historically the demo user has been the defaultTemplateUserName
[12:06:53 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> thanks (smile)
[12:06:59 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> when you have a chance, can you see if that fixes it for you?
[12:07:05 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yup
[12:07:08 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> i'll do a synchronize and clean deploy on mine too just to make sure
[12:07:10 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I'll test it next chance I get
[12:07:15 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> great
[12:07:21 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> i need to run out to lunch
[12:07:24 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> but i'll be back shortly
[12:07:29 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I'm thinking we should create an empty defaultTemplateUser to fill that role
[12:07:37 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> instead of overloading a user like we have in the past
[12:07:37 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> that makes sense
[12:08:03 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> sounds like a great plan
[12:08:06 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> back soon
[12:08:15 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> later
[12:39:09 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> ok, back for the afternoon
[13:04:25 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> athena7: no luck with that change to web.xml either
[13:04:31 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I still get the error in catalina.out
[13:04:38 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> eek
[13:04:39 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> hm.
[13:04:40 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> and now get http://uportal.pastebin.com/ddd13850 in startup
[13:04:49 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> though everything still works
[13:04:54 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> oh
[13:05:19 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> shoot
[13:05:38 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> alright, i'll look at my instance again
[13:05:44 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> what did i do to make it go away, so strange
[13:05:49 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> lol
[13:06:10 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> i like that it describes it as an unacceptable value though
[13:06:48 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> well I just clicked 'revert to default layout' as the admin user and nothing broke ..
[13:08:42 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> hrm
[13:08:47 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> except it doesn't actually do anything
[13:08:52 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I added a channel
[13:08:54 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> hit revert
[13:08:57 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> nothing changed
[13:09:18 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> interesting
[13:09:28 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> that's what i got for the non-admin users
[13:09:38 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> nothing changing?
[13:09:41 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yeah
[13:09:48 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> and for admin the channel got a wrench
[13:09:52 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> and then i couldn't log back in
[13:09:53 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yeah
[13:09:58 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I fixed the template-user stuff
[13:10:03 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> which fixes the stack trace
[13:10:32 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> another instance where I wonder if it ever worked :/
[13:10:56 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> sorry to interrupt but have you guys ever had problems with an error being thrown when someone double submits in Safari?
[13:11:15 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> we are getting this http://uportal.pastebin.com/m1caed9b0
[13:11:42 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> double submits what?
[13:11:46 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> a form
[13:11:51 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> just in a portlet?
[13:11:54 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> ya
[13:12:04 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> sorry...ya..a form in a portlet
[13:12:13 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> hm, don't think i've tried it
[13:12:39 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> never seen that, I wonder if the session information is coming with the second submit though?
[13:12:45 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> It only seems to be Safari. I can't reproduce it in Firefox or IE
[13:12:49 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> that's weird
[13:14:22 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> ooh i think i might have found it
[13:14:36 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> so i'd made the change scott suggested
[13:14:42 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> ah
[13:14:42 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> but never committed it because it didn't seem to work
[13:14:50 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> to allow http
[13:14:52 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> which was probably because the url was wrong
[13:14:53 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yeah
[13:16:45 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> that's committed now, grr.
[13:17:01 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> (smile)
[13:17:48 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> hope that one finally fixes it . . .
[13:23:08 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> does remember-me on the jasig wiki work for folks?
[13:23:30 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> let me try
[13:23:52 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> it is working for me since we moved it to the new machine but someone else here is having problems
[13:24:16 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> no such luck, looks like
[13:24:46 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> negative also
[13:24:53 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> hrm
[13:24:56 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> this was completely closing the browser
[13:25:01 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yeah me too
[13:25:10 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> can you go into your browser's cookie manager and delete all ja-sig.org related cookies?
[13:25:41 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> k, done
[13:25:59 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> you want me to try remember me now?
[13:26:37 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> after doing that, logged back in
[13:26:49 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> don't have any cookies that last past today
[13:26:55 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> one that expires this afternoon
[13:28:27 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> hrm
[13:31:07 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> Works if I leave the browser open and close/reopen the tab but other than that (sad)
[13:31:32 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> that is strange
[13:31:44 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> which has nothing to do with the cookie remembering, of course
[13:31:49 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> and deleting all cookies from ja-sig.org didn't fix it
[13:31:51 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> since you still have a session
[13:31:52 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> no
[13:31:56 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> what browser are you using eric?
[13:32:14 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> ah..my bad (smile)
[13:32:25 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> firefox
[13:32:33 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> and you have a mac, too, right?
[13:32:42 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yes
[13:32:54 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> the remember me is controlled by the 'seraph.confluence' cookie
[13:32:56 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> so we're testing with the exact same thing
[13:32:57 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> really weird
[13:33:10 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> if you look in the firefox cookie manager for ja-sig.org cookies
[13:33:12 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> oh wait!!
[13:33:14 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> do you see that cookie?
[13:33:17 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> that one says today next year
[13:33:18 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> not this year
[13:33:21 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> so that's not this afternoon
[13:33:23 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> i missed that
[13:33:32 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> and what is the Send For field set to?
[13:33:32 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> let me try relaunching
[13:35:47 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> hm
[13:35:48 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> not working
[13:35:59 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> can you double check that cookie for me?
[13:36:10 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> and see what the Send To: field is set to?
[13:36:35 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> sure, hang on
[13:36:40 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> thanks
[13:36:41 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> i think it said any type
[13:37:01 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yeah, it does
[13:37:14 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> ok
[13:37:20 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> that is really weird
[13:37:34 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> wow yeah
[13:37:35 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> ok
[13:37:35 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> the problem that was fixed with the upgrade is it used to be set for secure only
[13:37:41 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> so when i quit my browser and relaunched
[13:37:45 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> the cookie was still there
[13:37:49 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yeah
[13:37:51 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> happily looking all cookieish
[13:37:56 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> and then when i hit the confluence page
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[13:38:02 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> without logging in or anything
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[13:38:06 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> the cookie magically goes away
[13:38:15 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> and i get a new one that has a JSESSIONID
[13:38:16 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> and you're logged out?
[13:38:21 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yep
[13:38:27 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> very strange
[13:39:00 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> on a different note ... the export scripts don't export a template-user
[13:39:05 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> which is why things got all messed up
[13:39:19 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> so somehow when i revisit the page, the cookie gets eaten
[13:39:22 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> oohhhh
[13:39:25 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> gotcha
[13:40:50 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> maybe if we got less tasty cookies they wouldn't get eaten . . .
[13:41:10 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I'll have to see if JimH has the same problems and see if I can help figure out what's up
[13:41:20 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> but remember me for the jasig wiki should be working right now :/
[13:41:29 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> and has been for me since the upgrade ... which has been quite nice
[13:43:09 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> that's just so weird that it works for you and not others
[13:43:29 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> so when I log in to the wiki (selecting remember me) after having no ja-sig.org cookies I get: seraph.confluence, JSESSIONID and crowd.token_key cookies
[13:43:58 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> the seraph cookie is the only one that doesn't expire at the end of my session
[13:44:09 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> same here
[13:44:17 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> and that cookie lasts until i come back to the page
[13:44:45 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I started firefox, only had the seraph cookie
[13:45:17 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> went to http://www.ja-sig.org/wiki ... got a new JSESSIONID and crowd.token_key, the seraph cookie stayed and I'm logged in
[13:45:17 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yes
[13:45:19 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> weird
[13:45:29 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> same for me, except the seraph cookie disappeared
[13:49:27 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> wow, very weird
[13:49:33 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I'll have to play with this more later
[13:49:59 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> back to figuring out how to export a template-user and why resetting layouts doesn't work (tongue)
[14:10:48 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> so jen, does the http go back to https in web.xml?
[14:10:58 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yeah i think i checked that in
[14:11:01 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> it won't actually work
[14:11:03 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> ok
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[14:11:04 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> you did
[14:11:06 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> but i guess it won't complain either
[14:11:08 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I just wanted to make sure (smile)
[14:11:18 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> i guess we'd need something similar to what we did for the other ssl thing
[14:11:46 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> ah yeah
[14:11:58 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> well I have an updated export-user script that understands template users now
[14:12:09 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> and we have a defaultTemplateUser
[14:15:59 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> great (smile)
[14:18:35 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> so just the cuserlocales one now
[14:18:40 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> and confirm that the cas thing is fixed
[14:18:59 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> cool
[14:19:09 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> well and figure out why revert to default just doesn't work
[14:19:18 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> oh
[14:19:27 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> does it not work once the template user is there still?
[14:19:54 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> nope
[14:19:56 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> no stack trace
[14:20:00 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> but nothing happens
[14:20:06 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> weird
[14:20:09 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yeah
[14:20:27 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> http://www.ja-sig.org/issues/browse/UP-2002
[14:20:37 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> ah
[14:31:05 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> i just fixed a totally torturous IE bug
[14:31:09 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> aiee
[14:31:17 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yay no cas stack trace!
[14:32:07 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> hrm ... just realized
[14:32:11 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> no calendar with no ajax
[14:32:56 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yeah
[14:33:20 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> last time i tried importing the jquery library twice things broke
[14:33:28 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> i don't know if that's supposed to be possible or not
[14:33:45 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> ah
[14:33:59 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> the fun future of javascript in portals (smile)
[14:35:18 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yeah
[14:35:23 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> some of it's likely to be a pain
[14:35:29 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yup
[14:35:38 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> and packaged portlet that uses a framework is going to be no fun
[14:35:47 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> s/and/any/
[14:35:50 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yeah
[14:35:59 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> well i'm hoping that that will be one advantage of using jquery
[14:36:20 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> since it's supposed to play nicely with other frameworks
[14:36:52 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> as long as none of the portlets pacakge jquery (smile)
[14:36:58 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> i also like the 60% less javascript (smile)
[14:37:00 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> heh, yeah
[14:37:03 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> well it may be possible
[14:37:12 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> i haven't really had time to look more closely
[14:37:22 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> i'm hoping that's not the case for the plugins
[14:51:57 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> is it correct that up3 doesn't have wsrp support?
[14:52:03 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yes
[14:52:25 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> there is no java based WSRP support that doesn't rely on pluto 1.0
[14:52:39 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> ok
[14:52:40 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> thanks
[14:52:41 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> well I think there may be some code in SVN for wsrp4j but I don't think it is ready to go as is
[14:52:42 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yup
[14:52:55 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> i wanted to make sure i was telling people at yale things that were actually accurate
[14:53:12 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> there are some people interested in fixing that though
[14:53:20 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> cool
[14:53:23 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> so we may actually get decent wsrp support in the not so distant future
[14:54:48 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> hrm ... so revert layout may have actually removed a bunch of stuff
[14:55:02 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> like what kind of stuff?
[14:55:07 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> IO
[14:55:21 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I'm not positive since I made some other changes, but I just logged back in as the admin user and I only had the admin tab
[14:55:28 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> all my fragment tabs were gone
[14:55:31 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> interesting
[14:55:38 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yeah
[14:55:39 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> what happens if you restart tomcat?
[14:55:44 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> just out of curiosity
[14:55:48 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> that was after a restart
[14:55:52 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> ah
[14:55:53 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> wow
[14:55:56 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I have a meeting to run to but I'll look into it more when I get back
[14:55:59 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> ok
[14:56:18 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> actually, the admin layout has several non-fragment tabs
[14:56:30 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> so it sounds like maybe it removed everything but the fragments
[14:56:49 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> which maybe is what it would be expected to do?
[14:56:53 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> anyway, i'll be around later
[14:57:47 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> ok
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[15:38:42 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> EricDalquist, hey there
[15:39:09 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> I hear he's a hack
[15:39:29 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> question: how do I make a specific theme default for all users?? or do I have to specify individually? and how do I do that on the source so I don't have to redoit everytime I deploy?? (smile)
[15:39:30 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> jk, for the people who may not know me (smile)
[15:39:38 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> holdorph, I'll have to agree with ya
[15:39:43 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> holdorph, same word came to my ears (tongue)
[15:39:49 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> haha (wink) holdorph you're fine ^^,
[15:39:51 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> lol
[15:39:54 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> holdorph, but this gets logged (tongue)
[15:39:59 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> i'm telling!
[15:40:06 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> oh nooozz
[15:40:07 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> (tongue)
[15:40:08 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> yeah, well, won't be the worst thing associated to me
[15:40:29 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> hahaa
[15:40:30 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> which release levi?
[15:40:30 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> i think you can set a default for all users, which they can then change
[15:40:33 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> 2.6
[15:40:40 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> can't freaking move to 3.0 yet
[15:40:41 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> argh
[15:40:48 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> by deploy do you mean like initportal?
[15:40:57 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> hmm
[15:41:22 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> ant deploy
[15:41:26 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> hmm
[15:41:34 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> that shouldn't modify the database
[15:41:45 EDT(-0400)] * holdorph is not a theme/skin guy, so knows nothing here
[15:41:48 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> but i wonder
[15:41:56 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> if that's an attribute of the template user
[15:41:56 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> are you using the ajax UI to set the skin?
[15:42:04 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> eek no
[15:42:06 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> (tongue)
[15:42:08 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> i think it is, holdorph
[15:42:09 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> ok
[15:42:12 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> plain ol' interface
[15:42:19 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> i wanted to make sure it wasn't a bug there (smile)
[15:42:22 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> ya
[15:42:24 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> (big grin)
[15:42:40 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> so anyway, you said you had to redoit every time you deployed? how are you setting it?
[15:44:01 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> login in as user XPTO > Preferences > change theme
[15:44:09 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> I only have one theme available
[15:44:21 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> skin, not theme, right?
[15:44:26 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> but it still defaults to "Spring", even though I don't have it listed on the xslts anymore
[15:44:30 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> skin, yes
[15:44:30 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> sorry
[15:44:39 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> I do use a theme, but that's another thing (tongue)
[15:44:48 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> oh boy, naming convensions...
[15:44:58 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> conventions*
[15:45:17 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yeah, it's confusing
[15:45:19 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> ok
[15:45:20 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> can you change it in your template users layout?
[15:45:34 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> and see if that affects any new users who login
[15:45:49 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> so i think the way to set the default is in the theme default
[15:46:19 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> the template user has a spot for a skin preference, but since it's set wrong in up3, i'm not sure if it's really taking effect
[15:46:37 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> what you're looking at though, is the skin chooser in the preferences channel though, right?
[15:46:56 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> in that case, it gets those options from the skinList.xml file
[15:47:04 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> which is in the theme's directory
[15:47:14 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> sounds like he's modified that part
[15:47:25 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> but that just changes whats in the drop down
[15:47:30 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> not what is 'active' at login
[15:47:30 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yeah
[15:47:44 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yeah i wasn't sure how much was wrong at this point (smile)
[15:47:49 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> but i'd try the template user
[15:48:21 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> and also modifying up_ss_theme_parm
[15:48:50 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> yeah, my next statement was going to be, if that worked, then you'd have to go into the db, for all users who have already logged in
[15:49:18 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> that table actually isn't user-specific
[15:49:24 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> that's the default value for the theme as a whole
[15:49:36 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> there's got to be a table with some users specific choices somewhere
[15:49:42 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> ah, good point
[15:50:34 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> the ones for the users who need to be updated would be in up_ss_user_parm;
[15:50:47 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> the non-standard table names drive me insane
[15:50:49 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> parm vs. param
[15:51:37 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> for that matter, what the heck does 'ss' stand for, at least for someone not familiar with the code base or tables
[15:51:43 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yeah
[15:51:57 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> there's a lot that's not really intuitive (smile)
[15:53:45 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> anyway, did any of that help levifig?
[15:54:02 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> (I'm reading right now (smile))
[15:54:17 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> sorry that was a little scattered (smile)
[15:54:54 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> I stripped down the skinList.xml to include just my skin
[15:55:05 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> I left the other folders there
[15:55:16 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> and by default it's still loading "Spring"
[15:55:48 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> when I try editing the preferences of a user and change the skin he uses, only my skin shows up, but it's unchecked (no other is checked since no other "exists")
[15:55:56 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> ok, so the skinList.xml only affects what the options are in the preferences channel, not what happens by default
[15:56:03 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> I see
[15:56:27 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> so I have to add my skin to the DB, correct?
[15:57:30 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> hang on, phone
[15:58:07 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> ok ok
[15:58:10 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> no prob (wink)
[15:58:23 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yes, i'd try setting the value in up_ss_theme_parm to your new skin name
[15:58:42 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> if you look in there you should see a value for the dlm tab-column theme that's set to spring
[15:59:09 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> you might also try changing the skin for the template user, although i'm not 100% sure if that has much effect
[16:12:30 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> not sure I approve of holdorph talking about me back there (wink)
[16:13:32 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> i was on my lunch hour and bored. just trying to stir things up.
[16:14:11 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> (smile)
[16:14:26 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> how are things in the land of sun? Its been raining all day here (sad)
[16:15:10 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> it could at least thunder and make it interesting
[16:15:47 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> the last couple of weeks (week before easter) until now
[16:15:53 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> have been, one word, perfect
[16:15:58 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yeah i like it when it at least storms instead of just raining constantly
[16:16:04 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> aw i'm jealous
[16:16:19 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> it was nice when i was there, i didn't want to leave (smile)
[16:16:22 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> 50-60's at night, 80's during the day
[16:16:27 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> nice
[16:16:35 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> no humidity. perfect.
[16:16:36 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> 80s in phx is surprisingly pleasant, too
[16:17:20 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> vs. hearing over the weekend, how our conference location in less then 1 month, just got snow.
[16:17:22 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> ug
[16:17:46 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> Minnesota in April. must have been cheap, is all i can figure.
[16:17:51 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> lol
[16:17:56 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> late april should be pretty good
[16:18:17 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> good meaning, at least there wont be snow any more?
[16:18:19 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> it totally could be snowing (tongue)
[16:18:36 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> the last year i lived in minneapolis, it snowed several inches on april 29
[16:18:38 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I doubt there will be any snow
[16:18:42 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> coming from phx, i'm going to be freezing my butt off
[16:18:45 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yes, i admit it's unlikely
[16:18:50 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> but mn is so beautiful in late june!
[16:18:54 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> like really perfect
[16:18:55 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> green
[16:18:58 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> late june, I agree
[16:19:04 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> could go walk around the lakes
[16:20:06 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> ooh yea, my poor broken machine is getting new parts
[16:20:15 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yay
[16:20:15 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> it'd be really nice to be able to run off battery power at the conference
[16:24:50 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> i swear this computer is cursed though
[16:25:30 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> lol
[16:25:35 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> oh, locale picker is fixed
[16:26:12 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> ooh!
[16:26:16 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> excellent
[16:26:55 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I have to run home soon but I'll take another look at layout reset tonight
[16:27:05 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I think it did reset my layout to default
[16:27:09 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> which is empty
[16:27:12 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> so I just got the fragment
[16:27:34 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> but I'm not sure if it needed a restart to show up
[16:27:38 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> so I'll dig into it
[16:27:52 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> it also didn't appear to remove my old layout from up_layout_struct
[16:28:00 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> brb
[16:28:08 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> hey Eric, what did you say you guys set your MaxPermSize too? We are moving to non shared libs and need to up it (smile)
[16:28:41 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> i don't think the up2.6 removes the old layouts
[16:28:49 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> i think we discovered that they just got dumped and orphaned
[16:30:10 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> we set it to 128M
[16:30:27 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yeah looking at the db it looks like it just increments your profile id
[16:30:34 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> which orphans the old layout
[16:30:35 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> ok, thanks
[16:30:47 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yay for lack of referential integrety (smile)
[16:31:00 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> dstn: no problem, I think we're using about 95M of 128M
[16:31:52 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> thats not bad
[16:32:20 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> I noticed tomcat's startup seems to be a bit longer without the shared libs
[16:32:32 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> no biggie, just an observation
[16:32:39 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> I'm here again
[16:32:40 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yeah, that would make sense
[16:32:40 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> sorry
[16:32:46 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> hey EricDalquist
[16:32:48 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> more jars to scan
[16:32:51 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> hi levifig
[16:32:52 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> ya
[16:33:41 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> well my ride is here
[16:33:44 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> later all
[16:33:49 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> have a good night
[16:39:47 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> anyone here use rinetd?
[16:42:34 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> not me.
[16:43:47 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> its a nice little proxy so I don't have to do use 8080 when developing but it randomly dies sometimes (sad)
[16:45:12 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> i use tcpmon sometimes to do just some simple port redirection. seems to work well enough for http traffic
[16:47:13 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> I might have to check that out, thanks
[16:47:54 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> neat part is you can run it with java web start from a browser
[16:48:12 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> as long as you don't need access to ports under 1024 on linux
[16:49:38 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> hmm, that sounds cool
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[16:58:47 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yay, home nice and dry
[17:00:22 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> hah
[17:10:07 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> why can't I remove the "number guessing game" nor its tab?
[17:10:08 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> argh
[17:13:18 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> in 2.6?
[17:13:22 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> it's probably set to unremovable
[17:13:31 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> if you log in as the fragment owner
[17:13:38 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> then you can delete it through the preferences channel
[17:13:52 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> glad you made it home eric (smile)
[17:14:13 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> EricDalquist, nice (smile)
[17:14:17 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> hmmm
[17:14:19 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> guest-lo user?
[17:15:36 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yeah
[17:15:56 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> you can also use that to set channels/tabs to be removable, movable, etc.
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[17:17:05 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> ok
[17:17:27 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> other question: is there some sort of "login channel"? I want my default view for "guests" to be just a login screen
[17:17:28 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> (smile)
[17:18:19 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> I guess I can use a default "Please login" to make them login on the "normal" via the normal login form
[17:18:21 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> hmmm
[17:18:34 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> the login form is just the CLogin channel
[17:18:43 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> could be easier cuz it wouldn't have me find a way of "hiding" the default login form
[17:19:09 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> and that is easy, just permission CLogin to the guest user and no other users/groups
[17:19:41 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> EricDalquist, where do I do that?
[17:20:14 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> it should be included in the layout by default
[17:20:16 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> heh, thats right this is one of the many problems created by ChannelManager only being able to edit channels in a category
[17:20:25 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yes, very true
[17:20:35 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> any ideas on how to easily edit the permissions on CLogin anyone?
[17:20:49 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> have I mentioned I really don't like CChannelManageR?
[17:20:50 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> i think the permissions channel shoudl find it
[17:21:00 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> i think the permissions channel finds more stuff than the channel manager
[17:21:02 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yes, i hate it too
[17:21:16 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> if you or someone else have some interest in changing the back end
[17:21:30 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> i'd volunteer to make it ajaxy and cool
[17:21:40 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> oh I do, probably won't happen until this fall
[17:21:42 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> portletmvc form wizard?
[17:21:45 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> (smile)
[17:21:47 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yeah
[17:21:47 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yup
[17:21:51 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> that or webflow (tongue)
[17:22:00 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> oh yeah that's actually even better probably
[17:22:01 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> and included in that would be deprecating ChannelRegistryManager
[17:22:06 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yeah
[17:22:15 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> and converting the IChannelRegistryStore to JPA
[17:22:36 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> sounds good to me
[17:22:45 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yup
[17:22:56 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> id' really like to do the same with the groups and permissions channels too
[17:22:59 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yup
[17:23:04 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> is gap far enough along that that's achievable yet?
[17:23:09 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> start fixing up the admin ui
[17:23:15 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yeah
[17:23:18 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> the stand-alone gap project?
[17:23:18 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> it's just soooo crusty
[17:23:20 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yeah
[17:23:31 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yeah, it is pretty much ready for the work of switching to it
[17:23:35 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> probably happen for 3.1
[17:23:44 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> to be honest, if there were enough API hooks we could even do the UI first and switch out the backend later
[17:23:50 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> that sounds great
[17:24:01 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> though doing an admin portlet for it doesn't need the stand alone project
[17:24:05 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> the api is exactly the same
[17:24:13 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> just available via spring
[17:24:16 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> i wasn't sure if the channel manager stuff had much of an API or if it was all really integrated into the channel itself
[17:24:21 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> ah ok, i was hoping that was the case
[17:24:46 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> most of it is in the channel itself
[17:24:50 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> bleh.
[17:25:00 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> have you ever looked at CChannelManager.java?
[17:25:04 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> maybe the groups and permissions channels would be places to start then?
[17:25:16 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> once or twice and then i got scared and thought about kittens, probably
[17:25:25 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> hrm, not sure
[17:25:34 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> the hard part with GAP channel -> portlet is servent support
[17:25:36 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> actually i fixed a bug in ours, maybe i should see if that applies to up3
[17:25:42 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> since we would either need to support servants
[17:25:49 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> or fix everything that uses them as servants
[17:26:00 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> what servants are these?
[17:26:12 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> uPortal 4.0 is gonna be all AJAXY and hip
[17:26:13 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> (tongue)
[17:26:27 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> by then everyone will be using the next big thing and sick of AJAX (tongue)
[17:26:28 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> haha
[17:26:33 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> jk (wink)
[17:26:36 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> so I think more than just channel manager use the groups channel as a servant
[17:27:09 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> so if we re-write groups manager as a portlet we either need to make it support rendering as a servant
[17:27:17 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> or change all code that uses it as a servant
[17:27:20 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> kind of a catch
[17:27:34 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> ah
[17:27:56 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> i don't think anyone's going to get sick of the UI being responsive (tongue)
[17:28:18 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> trying to use the channel manager makes me so cranky, lol
[17:28:32 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> athena7: can you try out the skin chooser via the user prefs channel?
[17:28:45 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> i have, it's been working OK for me
[17:28:50 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> is it working for you?
[17:28:55 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yeah, kind of
[17:28:58 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I switched to ivy
[17:29:03 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> and it took another click before it changed
[17:29:19 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> and the skin picker channel ui is very broken in ivy
[17:29:30 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> i thought i fixed that a couple days ago
[17:29:32 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> lets see
[17:29:56 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> apparently the channel counts on having transparent.gif in the theme directory
[17:30:01 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> er, skin
[17:30:24 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> and instead of the alts being " " or whatever
[17:30:29 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> they're "interface image"
[17:30:36 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> so if it's missing it spits out text all over the place
[17:31:17 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> uhg
[17:31:17 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I hate that image
[17:31:17 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I'm apparently hating lots of things today
[17:31:17 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> must be the rain :
[17:31:17 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> (smile)
[17:31:35 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> lol
[17:31:42 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> by the way, have you picked up the cas change yet/
[17:31:43 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> ?
[17:32:00 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> oh yeah
[17:32:04 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> works great!
[17:32:05 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> thanks!
[17:32:30 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> shoot, yeah, i see this being broken
[17:32:31 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> argh
[17:32:36 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> did i miss checking that in?
[17:32:37 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> i'm sorry
[17:33:00 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> apparently i haven't been very organized the last day or two - normally i don't lose changes . . .
[17:33:22 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> lol
[17:34:01 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> so layout reset looks like it sets UP_PROFILE.LAYOUT_ID to 0 for the user
[17:34:11 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yeah that sounds familiar
[17:36:31 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> interesting
[17:36:41 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> so doing a revert sets the LAYOUT_ID to 0
[17:36:54 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> then if you customize after a revert
[17:36:57 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> the id gets set back to 1
[17:37:09 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> the entire previous layout is deleted
[17:37:19 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> and the new customized layout put in its place
[17:37:27 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> it does require a logout/in after doing the revert though
[17:37:36 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I guess I need to dig through some code (tongue)
[17:38:33 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> ah
[17:39:13 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> so it doesn't completely orphan the layout
[17:39:48 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yeah
[17:39:57 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> although at least that's not a new problem (smile)
[17:40:05 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> ok, transparent.gif is added
[17:40:11 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> does the ivy skin look ok other than that?
[17:40:12 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> EricDalquist, changing the portal's default theme is done in the DB right?
[17:40:33 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> levifig: it is stored there, not sure it is the easiest way to change it
[17:40:42 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> theme/ui isn't my strong suit
[17:40:55 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> athena7: yeah the ivy skin looks really good
[17:41:00 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> ok, good
[17:41:05 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> I wanna make sure that after deploying every user will see the theme I want them to see
[17:41:10 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yeah i very much appreciate our designers' work (smile)
[17:41:15 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> EricDalquist, skin for what?? :o
[17:41:18 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> i just did the clicky clicky part
[17:41:39 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> levifig did you try switching the value in that theme table?
[17:42:02 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> athena7, I looked for any reference to "spring" on "up_ss_theme_param"
[17:42:13 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> didn't help?
[17:42:16 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> levifig: we're talking about a new skin for uportal 3
[17:42:19 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> I'm gonna re-deploy it now (smile)
[17:42:23 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> ah ok
[17:42:25 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> EricDalquist, I wanna SEE it ^^,
[17:42:33 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> i think that may do it for new users
[17:42:40 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> go check out the uportal trunk and build and deploy it then (smile)
[17:42:41 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> are you coming to the conference?
[17:42:47 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> EricDalquist, bah :|
[17:42:49 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> lol
[17:42:55 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> EricDalquist, same one as on the RC2?
[17:43:02 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> no, it is new since RC3
[17:43:07 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> or wait
[17:43:14 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> was it in RC3 athena7 ?
[17:43:18 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I can't remember
[17:43:19 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> nope
[17:43:20 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> it is all a blur
[17:43:24 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> just added last weekend or something
[17:43:25 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yeah so it is new since RC3
[17:43:28 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> or one of those times i wasn't sleeping
[17:43:30 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> hmm
[17:43:35 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> I'll have to test it
[17:43:35 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> if you want to see the default skin
[17:43:36 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> (wink)
[17:43:43 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> https://portaldev.its.yale.edu/render.userLayoutRootNode.uP mostly works
[17:43:57 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> although it's not the trunk
[17:44:20 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> RC2 had that one already
[17:44:24 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yes
[17:44:27 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> that's the default
[17:44:33 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> oh ok
[17:44:42 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> it's not bad
[17:44:43 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> the new one is an alternate skin contributed by yale
[17:44:48 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> which looks similar to https://portaltest.its.yale.edu/tag.idempotent.render.userLayoutRootNode.uP
[17:44:52 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> like the one they're using ?
[17:45:00 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yep
[17:45:12 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> dang
[17:45:14 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> i'd love it if other people contributed skins
[17:45:16 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> that's a freaking nice skin
[17:45:23 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> I should contribute (sad)
[17:45:27 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> (smile)
[17:45:33 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> design/ui/usability is my strong point
[17:45:40 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> design is not mine (smile)
[17:45:45 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> frontend design more than "artistic design" actually
[17:45:50 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> ah
[17:45:53 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> I'm going more into coding
[17:45:58 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> I love frontend stuff
[17:46:02 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> usability and such
[17:47:57 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> cool
[17:48:54 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> hey, the page isn't actually supposed to be white in the yale skin
[17:48:59 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> i knew something was different
[17:49:00 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> lol
[17:50:23 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> (tongue)
[17:50:39 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> I got make the theme we're using here work in 3.0
[17:50:41 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> :{color}
[17:50:50 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> theme or skin?
[17:50:54 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> theme (wink)
[17:50:58 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> not skin
[17:50:59 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> (wink)
[17:51:04 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> i'd strongly recommend using the default theme in up3
[17:51:11 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> and modifying your skin to fit
[17:51:14 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> ok
[17:51:24 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> there's a lot of great new features in it
[17:51:29 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> and it's much more configurable
[17:51:31 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> apparently theme here is another thing
[17:51:33 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> lolol
[17:51:37 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> the old ones have been kind of hard to modify
[17:51:42 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> it's a "channel type"
[17:51:52 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> ?
[17:52:34 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> gah
[17:52:47 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> http://pws2.ait.iastate.edu/wiki/display/THEME/installation
[17:53:24 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> ah
[17:53:30 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yeah terminology can get confusing
[17:53:39 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> argh
[17:53:54 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> I think it worked
[17:54:01 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> with the change in the database (smile)
[17:54:03 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> oh good
[17:54:05 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> i'm glad
[17:55:52 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> (wink)
[17:56:49 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> http://skitch.com/levifig/jrjt/uportal-default-theme-change.png
[17:57:11 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> this is what I changed from "spring" to "as-ep" (the name of my theme
[18:02:19 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yep, looks god
[18:02:21 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> that work?
[18:02:24 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> er, good
[18:05:21 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> yup
[18:05:22 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> (tongue)
[18:05:23 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> =)
[18:06:02 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> great, i'm glad
[18:06:07 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> i need to head home
[18:06:18 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> more work, different location
[18:06:28 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> seeya
[18:06:45 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> hehe
[18:06:46 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> cya
[18:06:47 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> adios
[18:06:50 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> same here (wink)
[18:06:57 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> what timezone?
[18:07:15 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> edt
[18:07:57 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> have a good night
[18:09:23 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> u3
[18:09:25 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> u2*
[18:09:33 EDT(-0400)] <levifig> thanks for everything (wink)
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