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[11:26:24 EDT(-0400)] <Tuomaz> Anyone her using UBC Webmail?
[11:26:28 EDT(-0400)] <Tuomaz> here
[11:27:06 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> not us
[11:27:11 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> nope
[11:28:01 EDT(-0400)] <apetro_LD830_ubu> A variant of UBC_Webmail was included in Academus, so I have some experience supporting and modifying it. What's up?
[11:28:08 EDT(-0400)] <apetro_LD830_ubu> http://www.unicon.net/academus for context
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[14:46:27 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yay! with the JAXP option for pluto 1.1.5 we don't need the xerces and xmlApis jars in tomcat/shared/lib
[15:04:36 EDT(-0400)] <apetro_LD830_ubu> that's downright shiny.
[15:05:28 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> so we're down to 3 pluto jars, castor, portlet-api, commons-logging-api and person-directory-api in shared/lib
[15:05:56 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> 4 pluto jars actually
[15:06:18 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> but getting those XML jars out of there will be a big plus
[15:06:24 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> that can be such a headache
[15:07:24 EDT(-0400)] <apetro_LD830_ubu> certainly an improvement
[15:07:47 EDT(-0400)] <apetro_LD830_ubu> we really need castor, he asked, recalling pain with castor back in days of fighting with WSRP...
[15:07:58 EDT(-0400)] <apetro_LD830_ubu> "
[15:08:03 EDT(-0400)] <apetro_LD830_ubu> ?, rather
[15:08:09 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> unfortunately the pluto-descriptor-impl depends on it
[15:08:39 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I've talked with pluto folks about providing it through some SPI that the portal provides and they sound interested but it would likely be up to us to do that work
[15:09:18 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> and it complicates pluto's lifecycle since there is no assurance that the portal webapp will be loaded before portlet webapps which would cause problems if the container had no way to parse the portlet.xml and web.xml files
[15:09:56 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> hopefully 286 will be 'better' I think it is using JAXB for the xml parsing ... which I have no experience with
[15:13:51 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> Also just added a build.properties option to clean out shared/lib
[15:51:04 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> nice
[15:51:34 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> it will be off by default since I don't want uPortal blowing away shared/lib without asking first
[15:51:41 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yeah
[15:51:44 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> but at least you can automate it if you want
[15:52:09 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yep
[15:58:52 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> by the way, did you have any thoughts on the up3 default layout scheduling issues?
[15:59:22 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yeah, did you see the email I sent yesterday?
[15:59:37 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> nope, maybe i missed it thought
[15:59:43 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> hrm
[15:59:53 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> don't see anything
[15:59:56 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I didn't hear anything back from Gary either but I figured he was on vacation already
[16:00:05 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yeah i think he's out already
[16:00:12 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> maybe i fell off the cc list?
[16:00:29 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> just sent it again
[16:00:35 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> thanks
[16:00:50 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> according to my sent folder it was to gary cc you and the steering committee
[16:01:15 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> oh you know, it might have gotten caught by one of my filters then
[16:01:38 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> i moved a bunch of mail around a month or so ago, and i'm not sure i cleaned up those older filters
[16:01:39 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> shoot
[16:01:53 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yep, that's exactly what happened
[16:01:59 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> thanks, sorry about that
[16:02:13 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> no problem
[16:02:24 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> now you have two
[16:02:27 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yes
[16:02:38 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> ok, sounds good
[16:02:55 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> my schedule is pretty sane at the moment, so we'll see what gary has to say
[16:02:56 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> good ... let me know how it is going and I'll do what I can to help out
[16:03:05 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> will do
[16:03:15 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I just want to make sure there is time for an RC3 after we get the new layouts in
[16:03:26 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yeah, that's completely fair
[16:03:31 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> one of the designers here agreed to make some thumbnails for the layout options
[16:03:39 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> so maybe we can contribute those back to the up3 effort
[16:03:50 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> and that will be one less thing gary needs to do personally
[16:03:51 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> nice
[16:03:56 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> that would be great
[16:04:04 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> we have a UI test next wednesday, so we need them by then anyway
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[17:38:09 EDT(-0400)] <apetro_LD830_ubu> mmm, build.properties option to clean out shared/lib? Would this best be handed with documentation and asking folks to either install against a clean Tomcat or to clean this out manually?
[17:38:28 EDT(-0400)] <apetro_LD830_ubu> I get nervous about build scripts and particularly build properties that go mess with my Tomcat

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