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[10:28:31 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> morning all
[10:28:46 EDT(-0400)] <esm> yay monday.
[10:28:55 EDT(-0400)] * esm has a case of the mondays
[10:29:01 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> :/
[10:29:23 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I'm still getting over a nasty cold I caught up in Toronto last week
[10:30:13 EDT(-0400)] <esm> allergies here.
[10:36:55 EDT(-0400)] <esm> how was the fluid meeting
[10:37:02 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> very good
[10:37:15 EDT(-0400)] <esm> yeah i wish i coulda come
[10:37:18 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> got started on integrating the reorderer into uPortal
[10:37:31 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> there is a #fluid-work channel on freenode
[10:37:41 EDT(-0400)] <esm> what is the reorderer?
[10:38:02 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> the javascript component that drives the lightbox demo Fluid has
[10:38:15 EDT(-0400)] <esm> nice
[10:38:21 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> deals with re-ordering components via drag & drop and keyboard
[10:38:34 EDT(-0400)] <esm> so that will become a part of the view framework?
[10:38:44 EDT(-0400)] <esm> e.g. portlets won't have to include it piecemeal?
[10:39:09 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> well to be a 'good' portlet it should include it anyways
[10:39:16 EDT(-0400)] <esm> right
[10:39:25 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> the decision at the summit was that they were going to use dojo as the underlying js framework
[10:39:40 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> and it does this nice dynamic include feature similar to java import statments
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[10:40:12 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> and so you can have N places on a page that do 'requires(fluid.Reorderer)' and it will only load the nessesary files once
[10:40:14 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I think
[10:40:22 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> that is how it was explained to me at least
[10:41:23 EDT(-0400)] <esm> sounds pretty cool.
[10:43:50 EDT(-0400)] <esm> so a portlet could supply the fluid.Reorder component itself, but dojo will only load one instance...
[10:43:59 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yeah
[10:44:11 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I believe dojo does dynamic includes
[10:44:17 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> so you only include the main dojo js
[10:44:36 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> then it async loads and evals the rest of the bits it needs based on the 'requires()' calls in the page
[10:46:29 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I'm excited about it though it is another thing on my plate
[10:46:54 EDT(-0400)] <esm> yeah. i have too much on my plate. after we are done moving thins should slow down a bit
[10:46:58 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> the portal side shouldn't be too much work but we do have to figure out how to generate some data for the JS to parse regarding what portlets can move where
[10:47:43 EDT(-0400)] <esm> so you are thinkging that the fluid reorderer will be used for channel/portlet dnd?
[10:47:52 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yeah
[10:47:57 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> that is the work we started last week
[10:48:04 EDT(-0400)] <esm> so replacing what yale has done? or supplementing?
[10:48:09 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> we'll be replacing the existing client side JS with the fluid component
[10:48:16 EDT(-0400)] <esm> got it
[10:48:25 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> the server side work that yale has done will get a few tweaks if needed but that will stay
[10:48:51 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> Jen was in on parts of the meeting last week and will be helping with this stuff too
[10:48:59 EDT(-0400)] <esm> sweet
[10:49:08 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yup
[10:49:25 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> once we get it working for portlets/channels we should be able to add support for DnD tabs without too much work as well
[10:49:58 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> we just need to work out some issues with behaviour of nested reorderers.
[10:50:07 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> but that should be fun for the designers.
[10:50:10 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist>
[10:50:20 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I have confidence in them
[10:50:24 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> me too
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[14:37:28 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> simple [test] for the bot
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<agherna> this is probably OT, but can anyone tell me how it is in a log4j.properties file for a file appender you can specify a variable for your root path (e.g. in the BookmarksPortlet, the filename is $

Unknown macro: {bookmarks.root}

/WEB-INF/bookmarks.log)

[15:48:07 EDT(-0400)] <agherna> a URL is fine if you know where I can read up on it.
[15:48:16 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> ah
[15:48:17 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> so
[15:48:22 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> take a peak at the web.xml
[15:48:28 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> that uses a Spring log4j utility
[15:48:40 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> to load the log4j config and provide parametric substitution
[15:48:42 EDT(-0400)] <agherna> did that and saw a context param...
[15:48:59 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> look further down to find the log4j context listener
[15:49:17 EDT(-0400)] <agherna> ok
[15:49:34 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> http://static.springframework.org/spring/docs/2.0.x/api/org/springframework/web/util/Log4jConfigListener.html
[15:49:56 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> you can do all sorts of fun if you use that to bootstrap log4j like using System properties and such in the .properties file
[15:50:14 EDT(-0400)] <agherna> i see
[15:50:47 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> With the bookmarks portlet it is meant to make the log file always end up in a known location
[15:51:11 EDT(-0400)] <agherna> i see. also saw this: WARNING: Assumes an expanded WAR file
[15:51:12 EDT(-0400)] <agherna> but
[15:51:20 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yup
[15:51:22 EDT(-0400)] <agherna> the portlets are done w/ Pluto, this is ok
[15:51:30 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yup
[15:51:54 EDT(-0400)] <agherna> thanks for the info
[15:52:00 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yup
[15:52:08 EDT(-0400)] <agherna> yah-hey.
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[16:02:28 EDT(-0400)] <agherna> wait, so what else can you do with it? it's not clear from the javadoc and there doesn't seem to be anything about it in the reference guide
[16:03:38 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> In the spring docs click on the Log4jWebConfigurer link
[16:03:51 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> The servlet context listener is just a wrapper around that class
[16:04:01 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> it details all the features you can use
[16:04:11 EDT(-0400)] <agherna> ok
[16:04:38 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> back in a few ...
[16:24:36 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> wow up to 10 people{color}
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[16:29:44 EDT(-0400)] <agherna> 10 quiet people...
[16:29:54 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> it is monday
[16:30:24 EDT(-0400)] <agherna> too bad, i started getting bombarded before dinner last night. it's technically tuesday morning for me
[16:32:45 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> that doesn't sounds like funn
[16:33:24 EDT(-0400)] <agherna> tell that to the blt sandwich i was trying to eat...
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