uPortal IRC Logs-2008-04-15

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[11:50:08 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> EricDalquist: I think the Yale bookmarks portlet changes are mostly together
[11:50:16 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> neat
[11:50:19 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> should i go ahead and commit them to the trunk?
[11:50:25 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> sure
[11:50:50 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> ok
[11:51:04 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> do i need to update the portlet version in the pom.xml or anything?
[11:51:31 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> it should be a -SNAPSHOT version in the trunk
[11:51:47 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yeah, it is
[11:51:48 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> so whenever the next release is cut the person doing so will update the version number for the release
[11:52:04 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> i just want to make sure nothing gets stepped on for the up3 release
[11:52:14 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> what's that pointing at?
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[11:53:02 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> ah
[11:53:09 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> no that is pointing to a released version
[11:53:13 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> ok, great
[11:53:23 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> plus you would have to actually deploy it to the jasig maven repository
[11:53:24 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> i figured it probably was
[11:53:40 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> what would you get though if you'd been building the portlet locally?
[11:53:52 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> would the jasig version override it?
[11:54:08 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> ah
[11:54:09 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> no
[11:54:20 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> in that case you could get the local version
[11:54:34 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yeah
[11:54:37 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> but that is also why the code that lives in SVN will always have a -SNAPSHOT suffix
[11:54:59 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> and the repository is checked every day for new -SNAPSHOTs by maven
[11:54:59 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> (smile)
[11:55:02 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yeah
[11:55:10 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> hard to get too broken
[11:55:15 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yup
[11:55:30 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> as long as no-one makes changes to a tagged version
[11:56:29 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I realize you've already migrated but with our ugprade here we've been doing outage planning (we have to start a long way off) and were concerned with the import/export script speeds
[11:56:46 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> migrated what?
[11:56:52 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> uPortal versions
[11:56:56 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> well up to 2.6 for you
[11:57:01 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> ah
[11:57:02 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yes
[11:57:02 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> so this could help for 3.0 (smile)
[11:57:04 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> to address it I think I've hacked up some CRN tasks that run sub-tasks in a thread pool
[11:57:07 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yes, very much so
[11:57:15 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> we've yet to actually use the import/export tool in production
[11:57:25 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> sounds good
[11:57:36 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> i was a little worried about script running time as well
[11:57:48 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> although yale's just not that big of a school
[11:58:40 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> how many people do you have in up_user ... if you happen to know
[11:59:24 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> no idea
[11:59:32 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> we've been running for a long time, so probably a lot
[11:59:43 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> but we don't have the student body size that you have
[12:00:02 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yeah, we're at about 120k right now
[12:00:16 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> though we're looking into removing all the deactivated users before we migrate
[12:00:58 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> that makes sense
[12:01:19 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> looks like 27K
[12:11:41 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> how not to write web applications: http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Oklahoma-Leaks-Tens-of-Thousands-of-Social-Security-Numbers,-Other-Sensitive-Data.aspx
[12:21:01 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> eeek
[12:21:45 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yeah ... the app gives you pretty much direct SQL execution support, you don't even need to bother with anything fancy
[12:23:12 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> whhhhhhat the crap!!!!
[12:23:23 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> ?sqlString=
[12:23:25 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> ahahaha
[12:28:27 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yeah ...
[12:28:44 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> for more fun ... go to google and search for:
[12:28:45 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> inurl:SELECT inurl:FROM inurl:WHERE
[12:28:58 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> you have to go down a ways before you start finding them .... but they are there
[12:29:00 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> lots of them
[12:29:17 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I found one that was a US CoastGaurd Auxillary Q&A site
[12:34:41 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> the coast guard had sql injection problems?
[12:34:52 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> that's pretty excellent
[12:35:03 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> not in an actually excellent way
[12:35:03 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> doing that search is scary
[12:35:09 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yeah i bet . . .
[12:35:15 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> wow that wtf posting is pretty ba
[12:35:16 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> d
[12:35:16 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> a co-worker just found a .edu with an alumni records site
[12:35:33 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> and the SQL in the url pretty much describes the whole table
[12:36:01 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> makes the password they ask for on their edit link kind of pointless when you can run arbitrary SQL via URL parameters
[12:36:13 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> and this is why PreparedStatements are good (smile)
[12:36:22 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> no kidding
[12:36:36 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> in that posting, i wonder if other people could have added new people to the registry
[12:36:40 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> that'd be really bad
[12:37:10 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I would be supprised if insert/update/drop/delete/alter all didn't workl
[12:37:28 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yeah
[13:22:51 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> athena7: I'll have a commit in just a few that uses pags to ensure everyone is in the Everyone group
[13:22:59 EDT(-0400)] * athena7 cheers
[13:23:37 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I just had fun writing the 'AlwaysTrueTester;
[13:24:30 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> (smile)
[13:26:42 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> all set
[13:27:51 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> great!
[13:27:58 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> i'll test out our dev server this afternoon
[13:28:02 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> cool
[13:34:20 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> trying to get a better sense of what's breaking and what's not when multiple jquery libs are included
[13:35:22 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> ah
[13:35:27 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> https://mywebspace.wisc.edu/dalquist/web/crn/
[13:35:29 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> oops
[13:35:37 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> wrong chat window (smile)
[13:35:52 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> though if you're interested those are the two tasks to enable concurrent execution in crn
[13:45:08 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> cool (smile)
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[13:49:50 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> colinclark: are you around?
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[13:50:06 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> i think i've identified my jquery problems
[13:50:44 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> athena7: Yup, I'm here.
[13:50:49 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> heya
[13:50:52 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> I'm multitasking. (smile)
[13:50:54 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> hey
[13:51:05 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> so including multiple jquery libs seems to work
[13:51:11 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> but only if they're included in the <head>
[13:51:30 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> if they're included later on in the page, things break in very sad ways
[13:53:04 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> also, the calendar widget can't be included properly multiple times in the same page because it creates a div with a set ID
[13:54:16 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> we ran into that...made it a class instead of id
[13:54:37 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> interesting!
[13:54:38 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> just edited the calendar library?
[13:54:57 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> other portlets, sorry
[13:55:22 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> athena7: This is extremely helpful information, thanks so much.
[13:55:22 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> but same problem with multiple div's with the same id
[13:55:27 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> i mean the library itself creates a div iwth an id, not my code
[13:55:35 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> ohhh
[13:55:35 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> good, i'm glad (smile)
[13:55:40 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> sorry
[13:55:46 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> i need to figure out how i'm going to handle it though
[13:55:53 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> oh it's cool (smile) i wasn't clear
[13:57:15 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> athena7: Have you tried it with just jQuery core?
[13:57:23 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yep
[13:57:31 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> so the jquery library itself has that problem
[13:57:32 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Also, what UI library are you using? Are you still using Interface? Or are you using jQuery UI 1.0?
[13:57:42 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> as well as the jquery ui 1.5 beta libraries
[13:57:52 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> athena7: Interesting. I'll have to talk to John Resig about it.
[13:57:53 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> and the datepicker widget is from the jquery ui 1.5 beta
[13:57:59 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> they may have fixed that in the head by now
[13:58:01 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Do you have any sample markup that shows the problem?
[13:58:22 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> i could create a simple test page if that would help
[13:58:43 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> probably be easier to see that looking at an entire portal page
[14:06:40 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> athena7: That would be awesome if it's not too much trouble. Then I can file a bug against jQuery and jQuery-UI and bring it up with John and Paul.
[14:06:47 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> no problem
[14:06:55 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> pm me a convenient email address?
[14:17:29 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> so dstn, any chance the ajax stuff will be into the weather portlet before the conference? (smile)
[14:26:52 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> ok colin, sent you a zip
[14:30:52 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> athena7: Thanks!
[14:31:13 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yep (smile)
[14:35:33 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> the portal knows me!
[14:35:34 EDT(-0400)] * athena7 claps
[14:35:39 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> wooo
[14:35:47 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> thanks eric, fix looks great
[14:35:48 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> (smile)
[14:35:58 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> no problem, I'm glad we went the PAGs route
[14:36:09 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> it will be nice not adding new users to some DB group by default
[14:36:26 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yeah
[14:36:36 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> sounds good to me (smile)
[14:38:15 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> initportal seems to work nicely on oracle and all that
[14:38:23 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> great
[14:38:41 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I'm fixing up some of the delete-*.crn scripts right now
[14:38:56 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> and will be doing testing on windows later (uhg)
[14:40:07 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> bleh, indeed!
[14:40:42 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> especially since I have to do it all in a VM
[14:40:51 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> oh well
[14:41:23 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> oh, double ugh
[14:41:23 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yeah
[15:13:53 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> i realized i never added licenses for jquery and interface.js
[15:14:00 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> they're both licensed under MIT and GPL
[15:14:37 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> any thoughts on what exactly i should include in the license files?
[15:15:20 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> just the text of the MIT license or something?
[15:45:57 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> does jquery have a license file?
[15:46:15 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> athena7: I missed your question about jQuery licensing. For Fluid, we put the text of the two licenses into text files in SVN.
[15:46:18 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> I'll dig you up a link...
[15:46:29 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> i just found the jquery license, actually
[15:46:48 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> https://source.fluidproject.org/svn/fluid/components/trunk/src/webapp/fluid-components/js/jquery/
[15:46:51 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> so yes, they have both MIT and GPL license files
[15:46:54 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> cool
[15:47:00 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> eric do we want them both, or just the mit, or what?
[15:47:15 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I'm not sure what the appropriate action is, I know we're using it under the MIT license
[15:47:20 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yeah
[15:47:23 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> but I don't know if we need to include both or not
[15:47:26 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> i think you can pick
[15:47:33 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> you may want to see if you can ping AndrewP about it
[15:47:49 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> "jQuery is currently available for use in all personal or commercial projects under both MIT and GPL licenses. This means that you can choose the license that best suits your project, and use it accordingly."
[15:47:57 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yeah that's probably a good idea
[15:48:09 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> he seems to have a decent handle on that stuff
[15:48:14 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> i tracked down the cc license for the icon set that was added, too
[15:48:20 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> since that didn't seem to be in there
[15:48:23 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> and removed the dojo one
[15:48:36 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> i can't think of anything else that changed, at least in the theme
[15:48:44 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> great
[16:04:00 EDT(-0400)] * athena7 curses loudly
[16:04:09 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> ?
[16:04:18 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> here i've been trying to debug this for like half an hour and it turns out the test oracle databases are offline
[16:04:19 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> wtf??
[16:04:24 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> lol
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[16:07:28 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> argh
[16:07:35 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yeah, dbas confirmed that they're down
[16:07:39 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> time to go get coffee
[16:17:51 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> turns out i'm too tired to go get coffee
[16:18:04 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> lol
[16:18:12 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> it's like . . . far away
[16:18:12 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> (sad)
[16:18:15 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> (tongue)
[16:18:33 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> early morning updates kill me
[16:22:07 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> hm.
[16:23:12 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> should the cas userinfoservice be enabled by default?
[16:23:21 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> sure
[16:23:33 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> for some reason i thought i'd checked that in, but i guess not
[16:28:48 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I love hibernate and cascading deletes
[16:29:51 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> calling delete on a IPortletDefinition removes it, all IPortletEntities based on it and all IPortletPreferences for the definitions and enities
[16:30:57 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> Ya that is nice
[16:50:12 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> argh!
[16:50:20 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> so close to having this tested and the db is going down again
[16:54:15 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> (tongue)
[16:54:28 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> on the + side we're down to 2 up3 jira issues
[16:56:40 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I can't wait for this laptop to die so I can get a big dev box
[16:57:03 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> building the quickstart is rather painful
[16:57:55 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yeah
[16:58:00 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> really makes a difference
[16:58:28 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> the difference between my old g4 and the new mbp was ridiculous
[16:58:40 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> 6 min vs. 50 s to start up sakai (smile)
[16:58:45 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> (smile)
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