uPortal IRC Logs-2008-05-01
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[12:33:04 EDT(-0400)] <KWhat_Work> good morning anyone who is here
[12:39:07 EDT(-0400)] <Bina> Hi. I just got back from the conference - great to meet all the people I see on the email lists. Not sure if who is here in the chat, but I am looking to "promo" some portal possibilities to my boss. Does any have demo logins for their portals?
[12:42:26 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> I don't think this list is greatly up to date but you may find some demo logins form here: http://www.uportal.org/who-prod.html
[12:43:20 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> I'd highly suggest the quickstart too.
[12:44:03 EDT(-0400)] <KWhat_Work> When i change a preference for uPortal ( http://www.ja-sig.org/wiki/display/UPM30/Properties ) i basically rebuild and redeploy the project correct?
[12:44:25 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> yes
[12:44:43 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> although, you won't have to rebuild since Maven can tell what's been changed
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[12:45:06 EDT(-0400)] <KWhat_Work> well its kind of a challenge because development and serving are going to be in 2 different locations
[12:45:08 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> if you know what I mean
[12:45:46 EDT(-0400)] <KWhat_Work> unless i can build locally and deploy it remotely manually
[12:46:03 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> Ya, that is how we are too. What we do is run our own development instances on our local boxes.
[12:46:17 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> I know there are other solutions to that as well
[12:46:54 EDT(-0400)] <KWhat_Work> well im certainly not installing tomcat and mysql locally, probably a vm or something for testing.
[12:48:00 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> Well, the mysql can be on a remote machine
[12:48:08 EDT(-0400)] <Bina> Thanks. I will check that out.
[12:48:32 EDT(-0400)] <KWhat_Work> Firefox does a good enough job driving my workstation to a halt
[12:48:39 EDT(-0400)] <KWhat_Work> =P
[12:48:53 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> whoa...you need a new box
[12:48:59 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> lol
[12:49:23 EDT(-0400)] <KWhat_Work> hehe well i think its a combo of the P-D chip and firefox 2 being a heap
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[12:51:57 EDT(-0400)] <KWhat_Work> mmmm there is not war target or just a build target.... you know if anyone has created patches for the build?
[12:52:38 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> what do you mean?
[12:52:51 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> have you run 'ant -p' to see the list of ant targets available?
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[12:53:01 EDT(-0400)] <KWhat_Work> using ant help
[12:53:17 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> hey Bina, are you around?
[12:53:53 EDT(-0400)] <KWhat_Work> EricDalquist: I am looking for a way to create a war/ear and then have the ability to deploy manually remotely.
[12:54:23 EDT(-0400)] <KWhat_Work> basically i do not want to work on the config locally and then have to copy everything somewhere else to build and deploy
[12:54:35 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> do you have any sort of environment build management process at your insititution/group already?
[12:54:58 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> most places do work in a 'dev' environment, either a local or shared machine
[12:55:01 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> when it is ready
[12:55:03 EDT(-0400)] <KWhat_Work> not for uportal. and what we have is flexible
[12:55:13 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> they commit the changes to their version control sysstem
[12:55:17 EDT(-0400)] <KWhat_Work> more than likely the development will be on a seperate box and its going to be vm for now
[12:55:26 EDT(-0400)] <KWhat_Work> and yes we have svn
[12:55:38 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> then on a build server or the actual target machine checkout the tagged coded and build/deploy it
[12:55:56 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> ^ that's we we do
[12:56:05 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> thats what we do*
[12:56:15 EDT(-0400)] <KWhat_Work> then you have to rebuild on the live server ....
[12:56:18 EDT(-0400)] <KWhat_Work> what im trying to avoid
[12:56:26 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> or you have a build server
[12:56:35 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> which does the build and creates the artifact
[12:56:39 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> which you move over to the server
[12:56:57 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> the build server could even be on the same machine as the dev instance
[12:59:08 EDT(-0400)] <KWhat_Work> where do you get the war from after you build on a "build/test server"
[12:59:12 EDT(-0400)] <KWhat_Work> for live deployment
[12:59:19 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> that would be up to you
[12:59:20 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> scp
[12:59:26 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> shared file system
[12:59:28 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> rsync
[12:59:35 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> maven repository
[12:59:45 EDT(-0400)] <KWhat_Work> no no, where does it get put so i can scp it =)
[13:00:00 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> that would depend on the build system you use
[13:00:28 EDT(-0400)] <KWhat_Work> i would prefer ant ?
[13:01:24 EDT(-0400)] <KWhat_Work> man this is going to be a lot of work
[13:01:33 EDT(-0400)] <KWhat_Work> there is only one of me =(
[13:02:00 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> so you could always just point your tomcat location to a dummy place on the file system in uPortal's build.properties
[13:02:20 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> then 'ant deploy-war' will result in a uPortal.war in that dummy location
[13:02:44 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> or you can run 'mvn package' in the root of the project
[13:02:52 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> you get uportal-war/target/uPortal.war
[13:06:04 EDT(-0400)] <KWhat_Work> mm
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[15:56:19 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> EricDalquist or Athena7 can one of you give me the necessary permissions on JIRA to add components and versions for the weather portlet JIRA?
[15:56:37 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> oh yeah
[15:56:40 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I'll look at that now
[15:57:17 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> thks
[15:57:27 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> sorry about that, didn't think of it!
[15:57:36 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> np at all
[16:04:51 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> hey dstn
[16:05:00 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> see if you get an administer link in the project now
[16:07:26 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> Ya, I see it now, thanks.
[16:07:53 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> great
[16:08:07 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I updated the permission scheme so that project leads have full rights
[16:08:13 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> not sure why it wasn't that way already
[16:11:51 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> project lead hasn't been a concept that's had permissions effects until recent Jira versions
[16:12:09 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> a
[16:12:10 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> ah
[16:12:17 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> so I figure JASIG prolly didn't quite fully configure that when it first came into JASIG Jira
[16:12:31 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> got ya
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[18:02:25 EDT(-0400)] <KWhat_Work> May 1, 2008 2:10:43 PM org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext start
[18:02:25 EDT(-0400)] <KWhat_Work> SEVERE: Error listenerStart
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[19:00:55 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> Hey uPortalers, 7 AM meeting tomorrow in the hotel breakfast place re: Google Summer of Code
[19:00:59 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> be there or be somewhere else
[19:01:27 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> on the somewhere else option, please speak up with any input you have to that meeting, or I can even dial people in via cell phone speakerphone if needed
[19:01:33 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> spirit of inclusiveness and all
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