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[12:53:15 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> 10:52a MST. Still too early for Jasper

[13:49:46 CDT(-0500)] <tbain> methinks it is ALWAYS too early for Jasper...

[13:50:13 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> you guys used it on cccc(cc)(ccccc), right?

[13:50:19 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> but as a standalone server?

[13:52:41 CDT(-0500)] <tbain> yeah, we used it on CCCCCCC (I was, thankfully, not involved in it - Parker went through quite a bit of training on it though), I'm not entirely sure what the setup for it was

[13:54:33 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> thx. i might have a chat with him...

[14:44:16 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon> liquibaseageddon is almost upon us

[15:08:55 CDT(-0500)] <GregElliott> Hi, all. Just got off the phone with IRSC, and they got their first PROD early alert, and they were all abuzz about that. So, keep up the good work!!!!

[15:09:21 CDT(-0500)] <tbain1> How Exciting!

[15:09:24 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon> mazel tov

[15:10:13 CDT(-0500)] <js70> wait till they see the first late alert. then the excitement will be unstoppable!

[15:11:16 CDT(-0500)] <GregElliott> in that event, they'll likely just have hit the snooze button a few times too often.

[15:11:42 CDT(-0500)] <GregElliott> but really, great work from all of ya.

[15:14:24 CDT(-0500)] <js70> anything less would be unacceptable.:^)

[15:14:51 CDT(-0500)] <GregElliott> now, on to the next 40 or 50 schools.

[15:14:57 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon> Jim sorry I havn't checked in my stuff yet

[15:15:03 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon> just trying to make sure it wont stop you in your tracks

[15:16:24 CDT(-0500)] <js70> np. i never test my stuff anyway. no need.

[15:16:38 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon> kiss blow a kiss to the sky before you check in?

[15:16:56 CDT(-0500)] <js70> its all in the training.

[15:17:13 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon> I just assume I have 20 errors

[15:17:23 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon> thankfully hibernate is fast falling and its easy to catch

[15:17:58 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon> fast failing

[15:18:00 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon> too

[15:18:05 CDT(-0500)] <js70> its liquibase thats a pain in the a_s

[15:18:12 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon> eh

[15:18:27 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon> as far as schema evolution tools go its better than what ive used in the past

[15:18:36 CDT(-0500)] <js70> just kidding.

[15:18:49 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon> and its the only database agnostic one ive used

[15:18:55 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon> but yeah its tedious

[15:19:04 CDT(-0500)] <js70> xml is so 2000

[15:19:12 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon> i do hate xml

[15:19:33 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon> but id rather xml than some proprietary query language

[15:19:38 CDT(-0500)] <js70> i'm old enough to remember the excitement. xml-xsl applications for everyone!!!

[15:19:50 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon> ive done some of that stuff

[15:19:57 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon> also tedious

[15:20:02 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> https://github.com/tlberglund/groovy-liquibase

[15:20:27 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> and if you're not familiar w/ mr berglund, look him up sometime...

[15:21:11 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon> what is his full name do you know? looks like there are car dealerships with the same name

[15:21:24 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> tim

[15:21:58 CDT(-0500)] <js70> anybody that translates dutch into english is ok by me

[15:21:59 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> http://timberglund.com/

[15:22:15 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon> ty

[15:22:49 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> the maven stuff there is good

[15:22:52 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> but this is priceless… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QbheQitF74

[15:23:12 CDT(-0500)] <dmccallum54> plus he entertained my kid for a while at an uberconf a while back

[15:25:31 CDT(-0500)] <GregElliott> (1:19:12 PM) TonyUnicon: i do hate xml

[15:25:49 CDT(-0500)] <GregElliott> wow, I was just having this conversation last week with Matt Polizotti in the office.

[15:26:17 CDT(-0500)] <GregElliott> if ya'll don't watch out, you are in danger of morphing into UX guys!

[15:26:38 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon> gasp

[15:26:50 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon> my jeans are not tight enough!

[15:27:10 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon> and I wear non-ironic tshirts

[15:27:18 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon> (smile)

[15:27:33 CDT(-0500)] <TonyUnicon> js70 data model changes are in

[15:27:34 CDT(-0500)] <GregElliott> so you have little toys lying around on your desk?

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