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[09:08:06 CST(-0600)] <esm> lol. I just used sed to munge a very large wiki page from my local wiki 
[09:08:18 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> sounds like fun
[09:09:12 CST(-0600)] <esm> something i want to spend some time with - Doxia - the maven documentation parser/emitter has a confluence implementation
[09:09:22 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> hrm
[09:09:27 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> so it can output confluence markup?
[09:09:36 CST(-0600)] <esm> supposedly, i've never wired it up
[09:09:42 CST(-0600)] <esm> well
[09:09:50 CST(-0600)] <esm> i don't know if it emits
[09:10:01 CST(-0600)] <esm> but its there in Doxia
[09:10:18 CST(-0600)] <esm> i'd like to explore and see what its capabilities are
[09:12:18 CST(-0600)] <esm> i woudl fire up eclipse into my maven workspace
[09:12:26 CST(-0600)] <esm> is that sad - i have a workspace dedicated to maven -
[09:12:30 CST(-0600)] <esm> but my laptop would die
[09:12:41 CST(-0600)] <esm> fans fire up, the keyboard smokes
[09:12:47 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> lol
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[12:19:50 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> Hibernate needs to be able to read my mind 
[12:40:04 CST(-0600)] <esm> lol
[12:44:22 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> I'm trying to see if I can more accuratly model the uP3 OM in hibernate
[12:44:33 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> and I can store/get/update just fine
[12:44:56 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> its the deletes (specificly the cascading of the deletes) with the organization I want that is the problem
[13:06:20 CST(-0600)] <esm> i have no experience with cascading deletes in hibernate
[13:06:28 CST(-0600)] <esm> i've tried to stay away from that
[13:06:31 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist>
[13:06:38 CST(-0600)] <esm> I have a big book on it though 
[13:07:02 CST(-0600)] <esm> actually two books - hibernate in action - the first one, and then the second one, java persistance with ibernate which is like 3 times as thick and ihaven't read
[13:07:07 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> from my reading I'm pretty sure the answer I'm going to get is 'that isn't possible'
[13:07:18 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> I could probably do programmatic cascading deletes
[13:07:24 CST(-0600)] <esm> yeah
[13:07:34 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> but that isn't as effcient/clean as it just magically happening
[13:08:24 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> the real source of the problem is I only want references going from the leaves to the root
[13:08:44 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> and if I set my objects up that way hibernate has no idea what leaves to delete if I delete a node in the middle of the tree
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