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[13:00:44 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> I'm going to update the Fluid daily build server to the latest uPortal 3. Should I pull it out of trunk, or would you recommend a more stable branch or distribution?
[13:01:23 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Hello to everyone, by the way. 
[13:01:52 EST(-0500)] <athena7> hello!
[13:02:06 EST(-0500)] <athena7> how's the reorderer work going?
[13:02:07 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> colinclark:
[13:02:08 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> trunk
[13:02:16 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> there is actually a quickstart version now too
[13:02:18 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> EricDalquist: Thanks.
[13:02:29 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> I'll use trunk.
[13:02:51 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Shaw-Han has been working with Gary's new skin. Do I have a reasonable chance of also getting it working?
[13:03:01 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> check with athena7 on that
[13:03:21 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> athena7: Hey Jen!
[13:03:26 EST(-0500)] <athena7> hey
[13:03:34 EST(-0500)] <athena7> i don't think any of the new skin is in subversion yet
[13:03:40 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Reorderer work is going ridiculously slow, but we're making good progress.
[13:03:49 EST(-0500)] <athena7> we've set up a working theme branch though, and i'm hoping we'll have it in soon
[13:04:01 EST(-0500)] <athena7> i'm also going to try and do the migration to dojo 1.0.2 there
[13:04:25 EST(-0500)] <athena7> incidentally, it looks like dojo fixed their drag and drop issues
[13:04:27 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> We're really trying to make sure this is a really reusable solution, so that it works with both uPortal and might also be userful to other projects.
[13:04:33 EST(-0500)] <athena7> it seems to be pretty useable now
[13:04:37 EST(-0500)] <athena7> sounds good
[13:04:48 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> I haven't looked recently, but Dojo's drag and drop was broken conceptually, too.
[13:05:06 EST(-0500)] <athena7> yeah
[13:05:20 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> We're really happy using jQuery now. Happily all of our code will coexist with Dojo and other toolkits. And its getting really tiny.
[13:05:30 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Are you using a custom Dojo build for your uPortal work?
[13:05:42 EST(-0500)] <athena7> that's good to hear - i was concerned about having to include yet another javascript dependency
[13:05:43 EST(-0500)] <athena7> yes
[13:05:45 EST(-0500)] <athena7> er
[13:05:46 EST(-0500)] <athena7> no
[13:05:54 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> They've got a nifty little build process where you can create a Dojo.js that contains only the dependencies you actually use.
[13:06:14 EST(-0500)] <athena7> yeah i've seen a little about that but i've yet to try it
[13:06:21 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> I can help out with that if you're interested. Should make it a bit smaller.
[13:06:31 EST(-0500)] <athena7> sounds good
[13:06:58 EST(-0500)] <athena7> it would be great to keep it as small as we can
[13:07:06 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Yes, I completely agree.
[13:07:19 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> yeah
[13:07:19 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> I feel really bad that we've been so slow to get this new Reorderer out the door.
[13:07:43 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> I think the Yale DnD added like 5+MB to the uPortal download size
[13:07:45 EST(-0500)] <athena7> if you get to a point where I could play with it in uportal, let me know
[13:07:47 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> colinclark:
[13:07:49 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> don't worry about it
[13:07:58 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> we have a good roadmap for uP3
[13:08:15 EST(-0500)] <athena7> yeah i'm sure it did, and a lot of the added code/images/etc. probably isnt' even being used
[13:08:18 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> We were at a point where we outgrew our structure and needed to do some refactoring. The portlet work has made it way stronger, but it takes time.
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