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[11:23:54 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> java.util.logging is TERRIBLE
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[11:59:15 EDT(-0400)] <athena> ae
[12:02:55 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> so apparently ehcache 1.6 switched from commons-logging to java.util.logging
[12:04:39 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> and java.util.logging doesn't really work with webapps
[12:05:18 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> so there is: http://developer.jasig.org/repo/content/repositories/3rd-party/net/sf/ehcache/ehcache/1.6.2-slf4j/
[12:17:52 EDT(-0400)] <athena> oh
[12:17:52 EDT(-0400)] <athena> weird
[12:18:07 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yaeh
[12:18:09 EDT(-0400)] <athena> so we need a different version of ehache now?
[12:18:18 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> well functionally it is fine
[12:18:19 EDT(-0400)] <athena> that's kinda sad
[12:18:29 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> you just can't get logging out of it 
[12:18:38 EDT(-0400)] <athena> lol
[12:18:41 EDT(-0400)] <athena> which is no good
[12:18:50 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yeah
[12:19:10 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> if you want you can go vote for https://jira.terracotta.org/jira//browse/EHC-310
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[12:37:26 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> the Terracotta guys are real receptive to twitter. if you just mention terracotta, many of them will start following you. And you can then message back and forth with them. You could try the same thing with ehcache.
[12:37:42 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> good to know
[12:37:46 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> mention somethign about it in twitter and see if you get picked up by one of them, then ask them about it.
[12:38:14 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> I'm not sure if Greg Luck is on twitter, but I know some of the owners/founders are
[12:38:25 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I feel like I only ever use twitter to publicly shame companies
[12:38:58 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> I need to fix my facebook-twitter integration so not everything I put on twitter goes to facebook.
[12:39:06 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> it causes me to use it less then I otherwise would
[12:39:28 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> ueaj
[12:39:29 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yeah
[12:39:32 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I'm doing that now
[12:39:35 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> http://apps.facebook.com/selectivetwitter/
[12:42:27 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> now to just find the one i was using and undo it 
[12:42:43 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist>
[12:43:01 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> to a certain extent I'm growing less and less fond of facebook over time
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