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[09:28:08 EDT(-0400)] <athena> EricDalquist: the mobile stuff is in the trunk now
[09:28:16 EDT(-0400)] <athena> despite my minor tussle with svn
[09:28:18 EDT(-0400)] * athena sighs
[09:59:20 EDT(-0400)] <athena> EricDalquist: is that change for ehcache not committed to the trunk yet?
[09:59:30 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> not yet
[09:59:36 EDT(-0400)] <athena> oh ok
[09:59:38 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i hadn't realized that
[09:59:42 EDT(-0400)] <athena> makes sense then
[10:16:51 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> JS is confusing
[10:17:03 EDT(-0400)] <athena> sometimes, yes
[10:17:06 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> firebug says an element has a height of 20
[10:17:10 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> jquery says 19
[10:17:22 EDT(-0400)] <athena> heh
[10:17:32 EDT(-0400)] <athena> and the answer might be different on different browsers
[10:17:48 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yeah{color}
[10:18:51 EDT(-0400)] <athena> unicon had a nice internal presentation this week on js for java devs
[10:19:08 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> nice
[10:19:10 EDT(-0400)] <athena> there's probably room in the world for more of that
[10:19:11 EDT(-0400)] <athena> yeah
[10:19:14 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> actually JS is pretty easy
[10:19:24 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> CSS and element positioning is hard
[10:19:27 EDT(-0400)] <athena> hehe
[10:19:49 EDT(-0400)] <athena> jquery has made js a whole lot easier, that's for sure
[10:19:58 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yeah
[10:20:05 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I read the fluid plugin stuff last night
[10:20:09 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> looks pretty good
[10:20:15 EDT(-0400)] <athena> yeah, i've been really happy with it
[10:20:19 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I need to find time to try it out
[10:20:32 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> but I like the approach of injecting selectors and event handlers
[10:20:32 EDT(-0400)] <athena> it feels more sane than the jQuery ui plugin style, which never really made sense to me
[10:20:34 EDT(-0400)] <athena> very spring-y
[10:20:35 EDT(-0400)] <athena> yeah
[10:20:39 EDT(-0400)] <athena> it feels familiar
[10:24:08 EDT(-0400)] <athena> do you want me to just add the ehache stuff to the trunk?
[10:24:23 EDT(-0400)] <athena> it's weird - i actually haven't tripped that error on my machine
[10:24:25 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> sure
[10:24:34 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> it depends when maven decides to check for new versions
[10:24:39 EDT(-0400)] <athena> yeah
[10:24:55 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> haven't tried this on other browsers yet
[10:25:01 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> but here is the new flyout approach: https://mywebspace.wisc.edu/dalquist/web/MUM_UI/mum31b/normal.html
[10:25:10 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> only home and portal admin have menus
[10:25:31 EDT(-0400)] <athena> looks good
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