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[10:29:22 CDT(-0500)] <rlewis> Hi, I need to change the JVM memory settings. Where do I do that? Thanks!

[10:30:11 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> so you need to change the JVM memory settings for uPortal?

[10:31:38 CDT(-0500)] <rlewis> yes.

[10:32:11 CDT(-0500)] <rlewis> i see some related things in catalina.bat

[10:33:10 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> so on *nix you do:

[10:33:10 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> export CATALINA_OPTS="-Xmx1024m"

[10:33:24 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> there might be a way you can just set CATALINA_OPTS in catalina.bat

[10:34:03 CDT(-0500)] <rlewis> ok. env variables are used. I will do that. I see JAVA_OPTS in catalina.bat

[10:34:12 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> that works too

[10:34:21 CDT(-0500)] <rlewis> Thanks

[10:34:34 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> did you find an OOM error with the 4.0.6 quickstart?

[10:59:23 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> rlewis: I looked at your catalina.out and there isn't much there that helps

[10:59:29 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> can you take a look in uPortal.log?

[11:33:56 CDT(-0500)] <rlewis> I do not have a uPortal.log. I guess it didn't get that far. Tomcat is running but uPortal does not deploy

[11:36:42 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> do you have a localhost.2012-08-20.log file? could you pass that along?

[11:40:03 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> arg ... went to boot up my windows vm to test the quickstart there

[11:40:15 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> now I get to spend 20 minutes waiting for it to install updates

[12:05:28 CDT(-0500)] <rlewis> Hi Eric, When I put any JAVA_OPTS on there at all tomcat will not start. I am running on Windows Server.

[12:07:37 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> oh ... is this using the quickstart?

[12:29:53 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> rlewis: I'm at a bit of a loss as to what is going on

[12:30:19 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> it seems like the uPortal webapp is partially missing or corrupt or something

[14:56:12 CDT(-0500)] <drewwills> athena I pushed that change from earlier to a branch on my local fork: https://github.com/drewwills/uPortal/commit/0e5afd5d3bdfcd95587bf2f0f12be2e1ba78f2d3

[14:57:13 CDT(-0500)] <drewwills> i'd love to discuss the divide between that and the the stuff forming on the wiki page

[14:57:36 CDT(-0500)] <drewwills> what lies in the middle, and how to get from a to b

[15:02:42 CDT(-0500)] <athena> i guess i'm not really clear on what this patch accomplishes

[15:02:51 CDT(-0500)] <athena> maybe you could describe what you're trying to do there?

[15:03:43 CDT(-0500)] <drewwills> allow non-local accounts to have some attributes set in the uPortalAccountUserSource

[15:04:11 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> seems reasonable

[15:04:18 CDT(-0500)] <drewwills> i'd like to be able to click the "Edit" buttn on a non-local account in User Manager

[15:04:30 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> so an account from some exterior source is also pulling in user attributes from the local db

[15:04:41 CDT(-0500)] <athena> would probably need additional configuration to specify exactly which attributes can be persisted, and for which group

[15:04:44 CDT(-0500)] <drewwills> yep, that's it in a nutshell

[15:05:23 CDT(-0500)] <drewwills> i'd like to develop the wiki page we started to form a plan in that respect

[15:05:33 CDT(-0500)] <athena> ok

[15:05:39 CDT(-0500)] <athena> what do we think of what's on the wiki page now?

[15:06:15 CDT(-0500)] <drewwills> i think i may not have visited since the last change... will do so

[15:06:24 CDT(-0500)] <drewwills> i have to hop on a quick call though

[15:28:31 CDT(-0500)] <drewwills> athena it looks like your notes imagine tackling these changes (at least partially) through the PersonDir API, which I would agree with

[15:28:54 CDT(-0500)] <drewwills> it may be an opportunity to apply some polish there... smooth over some rough edges

[15:30:04 CDT(-0500)] <drewwills> I wonder if we need some sort of IPersonAttributeDaoMetaData type

[15:30:18 CDT(-0500)] <drewwills> so that DAOs can tell you what features they support

[15:30:29 CDT(-0500)] <drewwills> and so forth

[15:30:38 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> I would do this in teh spirit of PD

[15:30:41 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> and NOT as part of that API

[15:30:50 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> that is going to be nightmare to make that API 2 way

[15:31:56 CDT(-0500)] <drewwills> have you ever considered @Depricating IPersonAttributeDao, then starting over with a much simpler API and class hierarchy?

[15:32:02 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> yes

[15:32:10 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> I have a bunch of notes on paper on doing just that

[15:32:15 CDT(-0500)] <drewwills> you could re-impl the old api on the back of the new

[15:32:49 CDT(-0500)] <drewwills> if that work were done, do you think 2 way would be less of a nightmare?

[15:33:19 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> that would require redesign of my current on-paper notes

[15:33:28 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> so it could be considered as a feature for the redesign work

[15:33:41 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> but right now I think the best bet is a small out-of-band add on

[15:33:54 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> essentially like athena described

[15:33:54 CDT(-0500)] <athena> drewwills: i should have made that more clear. actually i didn't think using person directory was going to be a good idea

[15:33:55 CDT(-0500)] <drewwills> fwiw i think that if personDir were easier to grok & configure, they'd be lining up to thank you at the next conference

[15:34:05 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> oh I know

[15:34:07 CDT(-0500)] <athena> perhaps it'd be better to name that interface more clearly to signal that separation

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