uPortal IRC Logs-2011-02-07

[09:54:19 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> looks like I forgot to do the channel move
[09:54:28 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> darn football game yesterday
[09:55:11 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> ok everyone, head on over to #jasig-uportal
[09:55:22 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> I'll be setting up this channel to forward people there on join
[09:55:25 CST(-0600)] <holdorph> big game for you wisc residents, huh?
[09:55:30 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> yeah
[10:07:31 CST(-0600)] * holdorph likes the new auto-forward
[10:07:37 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist>
[10:07:44 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> I was planning on setting that up yesterday
[10:08:58 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> does make "moving" an IRC channel much easier though
[10:10:42 CST(-0600)] * Topic is 'http://uportal.pastebin.com/ - http://www.ja-sig.org/wiki/display/UPC/uportal+IRC+Logs' set by EricDalquist!~apollo@adsl-76-208-69-56.dsl.mdsnwi.sbcglobal.net on 10:58:24 CST(-0600)
[10:10:53 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> forever I think
[10:11:13 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> I have ##uportal registered and set the channel modelock to +if #jasig-uportal
[10:17:46 CST(-0600)] <DrewWills> morning folks... what's the difference between <fname> and <portletName> in trunk? (Given that there's also still <name> and <title>.)
[10:18:17 CST(-0600)] <athena> the equivalent of the old portletName channel parameter
[10:18:24 CST(-0600)] <athena> so basically the name in the portlet.xml
[10:18:39 CST(-0600)] <athena> would be very worth thinking through what names we use for all this stuff, since it's confusing
[10:18:51 CST(-0600)] <DrewWills> oh, wait
[10:19:00 CST(-0600)] <DrewWills> so then it can't just be anything
[10:19:07 CST(-0600)] <athena> no
[10:19:08 CST(-0600)] <DrewWills> part of the matching
[10:19:22 CST(-0600)] <athena> yeah
[10:19:32 CST(-0600)] <athena> think actually the portlet admin portlet still needs to be updated
[10:19:39 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> so I guess we need to figure out the best name(s) for the two fields that refer to the portlet descriptor
[10:19:41 CST(-0600)] <athena> one of my tasks for today
[10:19:43 CST(-0600)] <athena> yeah
[10:19:51 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> should we come up with a custom two-field object
[10:19:56 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> to make it more obvious?
[10:20:04 CST(-0600)] <athena> hmmm
[10:20:09 CST(-0600)] <athena> dunno, maybe that might help?
[10:20:20 CST(-0600)] <athena> think we still need better descriptions in the UI too
[10:20:28 CST(-0600)] <athena> since it's not even clear what name vs. title means
[10:20:29 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> ah true
[10:20:36 CST(-0600)] <DrewWills> yeah I was thinking that very thing... might be helpful
[10:20:58 CST(-0600)]

[10:21:10 CST(-0600)] <athena> yeah
[10:21:41 CST(-0600)] <athena> though that does kind of complicate the database schema
[10:21:54 CST(-0600)] <athena> probably want to also represent stuff that way in the porltet file
[10:22:18 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> well you could define that as an inline entity
[10:22:33 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> since it could just be a 1:1 relationship
[10:22:58 CST(-0600)] <athena> hm yeah that makes sense
[10:23:05 CST(-0600)] <athena> ok, i could probably do some of this today if you like
[10:23:14 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> yeah that would be great
[10:23:22 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> I'm working on 3.2-patches today
[10:23:26 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> trying to get 3.2.5 out
[10:23:26 CST(-0600)] <athena> i'd also like to talk about our REST services a bit - need to do some permissions cleanup and figure out how some of these URLs are going to work
[10:23:30 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> ok
[10:23:30 CST(-0600)] <athena> oh terrific!
[10:23:35 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> as for the title/name in the ui'
[10:23:35 CST(-0600)] <athena> we've had some people looking for that
[10:23:50 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> do we just need better descriptions for those fields?
[10:23:55 CST(-0600)] <athena> i think so
[10:23:59 CST(-0600)] <athena> or descriptions at all, really
[10:24:03 CST(-0600)] <athena> i'll talk to gary about it
[10:24:16 CST(-0600)] <athena> a year ago we had a conversation about whether we wanted to include more documentation in the UI
[10:24:20 CST(-0600)] <athena> maybe it's time to revisit that
[10:24:27 CST(-0600)] <athena> esp since we're finishing up the groups and permissions portlets
[10:24:30 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> something like "Title - Displayed to users when searching for and interacting with the portlet" "Name - Unique name used in administrative tools for managing the portlet"
[10:24:35 CST(-0600)] <athena> yeah
[10:24:44 CST(-0600)] <athena> even a little question mark w/ a tooltip would help
[10:24:49 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> yeah
[14:56:34 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> ack accidentally ran trunk unit tests with trace logging to console ....
[15:01:18 CST(-0600)] <athena> eep
[15:01:19 CST(-0600)] <athena> lol
[16:11:37 CST(-0600)] <DrewWills> @athena – do we have a good way to get content for the Messages_xyz.props files?
[16:11:42 CST(-0600)] <DrewWills> google translate?
[16:12:14 CST(-0600)] <athena> yeah i found a library that uses google's translation service
[16:12:24 CST(-0600)] <athena> and i have code that goes through and updates only the messages that are missing
[16:12:33 CST(-0600)] <athena> i need to find somet time to commit that, as well as clean it up
[16:12:56 CST(-0600)] <athena> but seems to work well enough to be worth using
[16:13:49 CST(-0600)] <athena> this is the library i've been using: http://code.google.com/p/google-api-translate-java/
[16:13:59 CST(-0600)] <athena> LGPL, but i think we can live with that