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[14:11:54 CST(-0600)] <serac> Dunno about others.

[14:12:19 CST(-0600)] <battags> that sounds fine

[14:12:30 CST(-0600)] <battags> I called it messages in the API because sometimes people display other crap

[14:12:43 CST(-0600)] <battags> not specific to the user

[14:13:53 CST(-0600)] <serac> Sure, so we could use the Message type here, but the method should be getWarnings() or similar.

[14:15:01 CST(-0600)] <serac> Big question: how pass warnings back from authentication handlers with existing api?

[14:15:12 CST(-0600)] <serac> Exceptions are pretty clear; warnings no so much.

[14:16:18 CST(-0600)] <battags> its why there was a generic API for messages because it seemed rather difficult to do it in the authenticationhandler

[14:16:31 CST(-0600)] <battags> though modifying existing APIs might get us in trouble (wink)

[14:16:40 CST(-0600)] <serac> It will be a roadblock.

[14:16:59 CST(-0600)] <battags> I'd rather make sure we do this support right the first time

[14:17:05 CST(-0600)] <battags> even if it does mean modifying APIs

[14:17:10 CST(-0600)] <serac> I'm totally open.

[14:17:56 CST(-0600)] <serac> We should anticipate making a strong argument for this.

[14:18:00 CST(-0600)] <battags> this is where co-located design sessions would come in handy

[14:18:16 CST(-0600)] <serac> But folks want LPPE, so maybe we can use that as a concrete feature to justify some API changes.

[14:18:23 CST(-0600)] <battags> I'm trying to convince my wife we should install a really big whiteboard in the house

[14:18:34 CST(-0600)] <serac> I won that one for about 6 months.

[14:18:39 CST(-0600)] <serac> Then wife won.

[14:19:05 CST(-0600)] <battags> unfortunately her job doesn't require a whiteboard

[14:19:13 CST(-0600)] <serac> I can imagine.

[14:19:16 CST(-0600)] <serac> Can we continue later?

[14:19:24 CST(-0600)] <serac> Or another day? Time is up for me now.

[14:19:24 CST(-0600)] <battags> I'd have to counter-offer with like a CAT scan machine

[14:19:29 CST(-0600)] <serac> haha

[14:19:40 CST(-0600)] <battags> I'll be around sporadically on Saturday and Sunday

[14:19:42 CST(-0600)] <battags> more so on Sunday

[14:19:51 CST(-0600)] <battags> but if you IM me, I now have IRC on my phone (wink)

[14:19:57 CST(-0600)] <serac> Ok, sounds good.

[14:20:08 CST(-0600)] <battags> talk to you later! have a good weekend

[14:20:23 CST(-0600)] <serac> I'll try to hook up with you sometime. You too. Pax.