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[13:01:40 CDT(-0500)] <athena> was that where ubuntu installed it by default?
[13:02:10 CDT(-0500)] <peterjhart> I am still pretty novice at ubuntu. I am glad I am using the desktop version where I could pull up the package manager UI and look at my installed files. Apt probably does that from the command line.
[13:02:17 CDT(-0500)] <peterjhart> I don't think I have to do that for uP4
[13:02:40 CDT(-0500)] <athena> gotcha
[13:32:03 CDT(-0500)] <athena> ok, so this d3.js library
[13:32:06 CDT(-0500)] <athena> super cool
[13:32:08 CDT(-0500)] <athena> BSD license
[13:32:17 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> that is the one you linked last night?
[13:32:19 CDT(-0500)] <athena> seems to work, inclined to like it
[13:32:19 CDT(-0500)] <athena> yeah
[13:32:27 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> awesome
[13:32:32 CDT(-0500)] <athena> so the disadvantage is that it's sort of more complex to use
[13:32:43 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> well, data visualization is complex :/
[13:32:46 CDT(-0500)] <athena> like here's the code for creating a simple line chart: view-source:http://janwillemtulp.com/d3linechart/
[13:32:47 CDT(-0500)] <athena> right.
[13:32:59 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> yet no one gets that cause good data-viz seems so intuitive 
[13:33:08 CDT(-0500)] <athena> but of course we could wrap logic like this up into some uportal functions that create a default line chart or whatever
[13:33:22 CDT(-0500)] <athena> so the fact that it's not all packaged up doesn't have to be a problem, i think
[13:33:32 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> yeah I agree
[13:33:38 CDT(-0500)] <athena> basically what we'd lose via google viz is that there's no automatic stuff built in
[13:33:50 CDT(-0500)] <athena> we'd need to define line colors, axis handling, etc. ourselves
[13:33:52 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> does it support any sort of overlay/tooltip features?
[13:33:54 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> yeah
[13:34:18 CDT(-0500)] <athena> so we might need to write some code to do stuff like insert a sane number of axis tic marks, etc.
[13:34:24 CDT(-0500)] <athena> i don't know - i'll look into tooltip stuff
[13:34:28 CDT(-0500)] <athena> seems plausible though
[13:34:38 CDT(-0500)] <athena> and of course it makes it easier to have multiple data views for the same data
[13:34:41 CDT(-0500)] <athena> switch between them, etc.
[13:34:44 CDT(-0500)] <athena> some really cool animations
[13:34:58 CDT(-0500)] <athena> so i guess my current thought is that this seems like a good library on the whole, is open source friendly, etc.
[13:35:10 CDT(-0500)] <athena> and maybe it's worth putting in the extra effort to wrap the funcitonality?
[13:35:13 CDT(-0500)] <athena> what do you think?
[13:35:32 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> I'm for it
[13:35:39 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> if you're interested in doing that initial work on it
[13:36:00 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> maybe try creating a clone of that login reports portlet
[13:36:04 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> and doing it with d3
[13:36:06 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> just to compare them
[13:36:08 CDT(-0500)] <athena> yeah
[13:36:13 CDT(-0500)] <athena> that's exactly my thought
[13:36:21 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> we have that branch to work on so that would be a good place to play with it
[13:36:22 CDT(-0500)] <athena> can check it into an alt branch and you can take a look
[13:36:24 CDT(-0500)] <athena> yeah 
[15:54:09 CDT(-0500)] <athena> looks like it is possible to add tooltips with custom code: http://bl.ocks.org/2070123
[15:59:40 CDT(-0500)] <athena> EricDalquist: i just pushed a new UP-2603-d3 branch
[15:59:47 CDT(-0500)] <athena> there's a rough sketch of a d3 implementation
[15:59:51 CDT(-0500)] <athena> no tooltips and the axes are rough
[15:59:57 CDT(-0500)] <athena> but works, seems to render quickly
[16:00:19 CDT(-0500)] <athena> if we want to go that route the code would need a bunch of cleanup,e tc.
[16:00:24 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> cool