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[12:35:38 CST(-0600)] <athena> lol

[12:37:31 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> also after ehcache fixes a bug we should be able to enable heap size % based ehcache config

[12:37:42 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> so in 4.0.4 we should have naturalid enhancements

[12:37:52 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> and an ehcache config that autosizes caches based on available heap

[12:37:58 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> yay magic!

[12:38:03 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> or at least that is what it all feels like (tongue)

[12:39:57 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> ok athena Interval rename is in master

[12:40:56 CST(-0600)] <athena> yay!

[12:42:37 CST(-0600)] <athena> ugh, google api not in maven repo

[12:42:39 CST(-0600)] <athena> fail.

[12:42:46 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> oh the vis one?

[12:42:51 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> it is, just an old version of it

[12:44:04 CST(-0600)] <athena> yeah

[12:44:17 CST(-0600)] <athena> looks like there are some noticeable API differences

[12:44:24 CST(-0600)] <athena> probably safest to go w/ the current one

[12:44:28 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> yeah

[12:44:36 CST(-0600)] <athena> guess we could submit a request to sonatype for it

[12:44:40 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> yeah

[12:44:43 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> seems like the best bet

[12:44:52 CST(-0600)] <athena> yeah

[12:44:54 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> and if they balk we can always publish it under org.jasig (tongue)

[12:45:04 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> well ... depending on the license

[12:56:09 CST(-0600)] <athena> apache

[12:56:13 CST(-0600)] <athena> you know, some days i hate google

[12:56:17 CST(-0600)] <athena> http://code.google.com/p/google-visualization-java/source/browse/#svn%2Ftags

[12:56:24 CST(-0600)] <athena> is there a 1.1.1 tag in here? no, of course not.

[12:56:30 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> hah

[12:57:55 CST(-0600)] <athena> and this doesn't seem to match the actual, you know, code: http://gwt-google-apis.googlecode.com/svn/javadoc/visualization/1.1/index.html

[12:58:51 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> uhg

[12:58:58 CST(-0600)] <athena> hmm, actually no, that's a different API entirely

[12:59:01 CST(-0600)] <athena> similar, different package

[12:59:08 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> ah'

[12:59:20 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> oh yeah that is gwt

[12:59:47 CST(-0600)] <athena> yeah

[12:59:59 CST(-0600)] <athena> no idea where one would find the other javadoc

[13:00:39 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> I emailed you a link to it ... let me find it

[13:00:55 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> http://code.google.com/apis/chart/interactive/docs/dev/dsl_javadocs/

[13:02:07 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> brb

[13:02:31 CST(-0600)] <athena> ooh thanks

[13:02:32 CST(-0600)] <athena> bbiab

[14:48:06 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> athena: does umobile support oauth?

[14:48:16 CST(-0600)] <athena> not yet

[14:48:18 CST(-0600)] <athena> but!

[14:48:25 CST(-0600)] <athena> now that we have the spring-security branch . . . (smile)

[14:48:30 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> (smile)

[14:48:34 CST(-0600)] <athena> it's certainly technically possible to implement

[14:48:40 CST(-0600)] <athena> and we could implement that on the native side as well

[14:48:55 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> just wondering because the concept of umobile not presenting the official UW login page does not go over well

[14:48:58 CST(-0600)] <athena> we probably won't actually write the connector until we have a school that wants to sponsor that work, or until the community wants it

[14:49:15 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> so we're going to say that uMobile requires oauth

[14:49:21 CST(-0600)] <athena> well, you could present the login page, instead

[14:49:39 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> to bootstrap the requirement that middleware gets an oauth server up and integrated with our shib server

[14:49:40 CST(-0600)] <athena> though really you don't want the user to have to log in every time they load up the app, because that's annoying

[14:49:48 CST(-0600)] <athena> sounds good

[14:49:49 CST(-0600)] <athena> (smile)

[14:50:02 CST(-0600)] <athena> so in that case, what would need to happen is writing some code that does the oauth stuff from the native app

[14:50:08 CST(-0600)] <athena> or . . .

[14:50:17 CST(-0600)] <athena> yeah

[14:50:22 CST(-0600)] <athena> i think that'd be the best strategy

[14:50:46 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> yeah

[14:50:55 CST(-0600)] <athena> i suspect most schools aren't really going to be able to use oauth because so many of them are relying on clearpass for something

[14:51:00 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> so the native app would present the login.wisc.edu page and then deal with the oauth

[14:51:02 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> right

[14:51:07 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> we're doing shib delegated auth (tongue)

[14:51:11 CST(-0600)] <athena> yeah (smile)

[14:51:13 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> so we need central oauth to make it work

[14:51:17 CST(-0600)] <athena> yeah

[14:51:19 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> uportal side oauth won't cut it

[14:51:30 CST(-0600)] <athena> and of course that's a really awesome thing to do conceptually in the long run anyway

[14:51:36 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> yup

[14:51:41 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> that is part of our issue

[14:51:56 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> is convincing the powers the be that having an institutional oauth service is a very good thing

[14:51:59 CST(-0600)] <athena> yeah

[14:52:02 CST(-0600)] <athena> that's very awesome (smile)

[14:52:10 CST(-0600)] <athena> and we'd definitely be interested in umobile supporting oauth

[14:52:15 CST(-0600)] <athena> just haven't had anyone that needs it yet

[14:52:19 CST(-0600)] <athena> definitely good stuff

[14:52:25 CST(-0600)] <athena> it's the Right Thing, of course

[14:52:41 CST(-0600)] <athena> rather than our current strategy of stepping through forms in the background

[14:53:24 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> yeah

[14:53:38 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> our middleware guys weren't so impressed by that idea (smile)

[14:54:45 CST(-0600)] <athena> yeah

[14:54:55 CST(-0600)] <athena> and that seems to me to be a reasonable response (smile)

[14:55:12 CST(-0600)] <athena> oauth shoudl be more achievable now that CAS has a new oauth module (just came out)

[14:55:22 CST(-0600)] <athena> and uportal's moving that direction

[14:55:25 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> well with luck maybe we can be the school that triggers the oauth work in umobile

[14:58:09 CST(-0600)] <athena> yay!! (smile)

[14:58:14 CST(-0600)] <athena> lol these new icons are so cute

[14:58:15 CST(-0600)] <athena> https://github.com/Jasig/uMobile-app/pull/1/files

[14:58:24 CST(-0600)] <athena> i like the happy little washer

[14:58:24 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> lol

[14:58:25 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> nice

[14:58:31 CST(-0600)] <athena> yeah

[14:58:47 CST(-0600)] <athena> andrew jokingly mentioned the MIT random house bathroom status

[14:58:58 CST(-0600)] <athena> and then requested that i not actually make a portlet for that ;P

[15:01:43 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> lol