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[12:01:47 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> PostgreSQL requires that CLOBs be read inside of a TX

[12:02:09 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> so all of the read methods on JpaPortletDefinitionDao and JpaPortletEntityDao are annotated with @Transactional(readOnly=true)

[12:02:15 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> you could try removing that annotation

[12:02:18 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> and see what happens

[12:02:28 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> it could be that the read-only TX is simply too expensive on MSSQL

[12:02:42 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> which means we would have to do a little work to only have that TX functionality for postgres

[12:02:44 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> which is doable

[12:02:46 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> just annoying (tongue)

[12:03:04 CST(-0600)] <Arvids> but the strange thing is that I also ran MSSQL profiler and each commit executes in 0-1ms

[12:03:37 CST(-0600)] <athena> the issue someone at unicon ran into yesterday w/ MSSQL was that the initial import for 4.0.2 failed with exceptions about connection already closed - think there was some stuff about autocommit in there, too

[12:03:57 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> yeah I would be very interested in what you get back from the Monitoring CPU usage feature of that tool

[12:04:17 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> I always enjoy (being serious here) looking at method call hotspot listings

[12:04:24 CST(-0600)] <Arvids> :O

[12:04:48 CST(-0600)] <athena> nothing like a nice glass of wine by the fire and a good thread dump . . .

[12:05:13 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> lol

[12:05:20 CST(-0600)] <Arvids> indeed (tongue)

[12:05:25 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> I do realize there is something wrong with me (tongue)

[12:06:16 CST(-0600)] <athena> lol

[12:06:24 CST(-0600)] <athena> we all have our weak spots (tongue)

[12:06:38 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> but it benefits uPortal, so don't look at me too funny now

[12:08:16 CST(-0600)] <athena> it totally does

[12:08:25 CST(-0600)] <athena> and we do all have our exceptionally nerdy spots (tongue)

[12:08:32 CST(-0600)] <Arvids> btw, have you had any chance to look at https://issues.jasig.org/browse/UP-3253

[12:08:50 CST(-0600)] <Arvids> this was the reason why we switched to MSSQL

[12:08:53 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> yes

[12:09:01 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> that will be fixed in 4.0.2

[12:09:01 CST(-0600)] <Arvids> (... and the presence of MSSQL admin)

[12:09:03 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> er 4.0.3

[12:09:10 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> it is fixed in master right now

[12:09:15 CST(-0600)] <Arvids> ah, nice

[12:09:21 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> I had to completely re-write how we do cluster based locking

[12:09:23 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> (tongue)

[12:09:35 CST(-0600)] <Arvids> sounds painful

[12:09:40 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> just annoying

[12:09:47 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> since the original solution took 2-3 days

[12:09:55 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> and then the new solution was another 2-3 days

[12:10:03 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> wish I had easy access to all the different DBs for testing

[12:10:10 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> that is what we need someone to do

[12:10:23 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> setup an EC2 instance with MySQL, Postgres, MSSQL and Oracle on it

[12:10:41 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> then we can spin that up 1hr/day and run the uPortal build/init on it

[12:11:21 CST(-0600)] <Arvids> well... I can't do that each day, but it seems that i'll provide you the details regarding MSSQL issues

[12:11:46 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> yes

[12:11:47 CST(-0600)] <athena> EricDalquist: is the stats stuff in master?

[12:11:50 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> that is nearly as helpful

[12:11:51 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> not yet

[12:11:51 CST(-0600)] <Arvids> now that reminds me that we had to remove one uniqueness index

[12:11:55 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> I should have it in master tomorrow

[12:12:00 CST(-0600)] <athena> ah ok, cool (wink)

[12:12:01 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> with at least one basic aggregation

[12:12:05 CST(-0600)] <athena> perfect

[12:12:06 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> https://github.com/edalquist/uPortal/commits/event-aggr

[12:12:10 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> that is where I'm working on it

[12:12:15 CST(-0600)] <athena> ah (smile)

[12:12:26 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> also ... I love having my own repo with my own branch

[12:12:34 CST(-0600)] <athena> yeah, git is nice!

[12:12:35 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> several of those commits are completely non-functional (tongue)

[12:12:51 CST(-0600)] <athena> lol

[12:13:29 CST(-0600)] <Arvids> next week i'll try to spend more time on uPortal platform

[12:13:44 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> that's great Arvids

[12:13:51 CST(-0600)] <Arvids> i've implemented a patch for https://issues.jasig.org/browse/UP-3270 but haven't had time to commit it back to our repository (sad)

[12:13:54 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> your involvement and interest have been really helpful

[12:13:57 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> we need more of you (tongue)

[12:13:57 CST(-0600)] <athena> +1!

[12:14:08 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> oh nice

[12:14:36 CST(-0600)] <Arvids> ... and that reminded that we have to be very careful when implementing new layout infrastructure

[12:15:00 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> yes

[12:15:09 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> we're going to have to do a lot of talking about requirements

[12:15:12 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> especially around i18n

[12:15:29 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> though simply getting layouts to use the same caching architecture as the rendering pipeline will help A LOT

[12:15:30 CST(-0600)] <Arvids> indeed - i'm also only learning about common issues in this area

[12:15:47 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> so that we are actually build the layout cache key to include ALL relavent bits of data

[12:15:55 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> so if any of them change we get a cache miss

[12:16:42 CST(-0600)] <Arvids> locale is certainly the one to remember

[12:16:46 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> yup

[12:17:36 CST(-0600)] <Arvids> ok, now time to relax (smile)

[12:17:52 CST(-0600)] <Arvids> thank you for your time - it was very valueable

[12:18:09 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> no problem

[12:18:15 CST(-0600)] <Arvids> i'll soon report my success regarding performance problems

[12:18:20 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> (smile)(]