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 (The full correspondence is available at https://list.unm.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0701&L=jasig-portal&T=0&F=&S=&P=2733 here.)

This question exposes gaps in the groups manager channel, which should have permissions covering operations on groups and their descendants.  However, you could also get the desired behavior with a custom permissions policy, and this might buy you some time to work out a more viable solution.  The policy would perform a special evaluation on permissions that are owned by the groups manager channel:

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