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[13:14:39 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> CSUC is now officially a 2.6 implementation school
[13:14:45 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> sweet
[13:14:47 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> w00t
[13:14:56 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> when do you go live with it?
[13:14:59 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> or are you already?
[13:15:08 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> about 7:05 am
[13:15:21 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> sweet
[13:15:40 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> only one tiny problem I've found so far...I left the small dbcp config in.
[13:15:51 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> luckily no students are here until after next week
[13:15:53 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist>
[13:15:54 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> so I have time to fix it
[13:16:05 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> do you have jmx enabled?
[13:16:10 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> and we're doing major power outages tomorrow
[13:16:11 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> if so you can always go change it live
[13:16:50 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> lets pretend for, a minute, that I'm a moron...
[13:16:55 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> that would be in the tomcat server.xml?
[13:17:13 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> you enable jmx with system properties on the java command line
[13:17:24 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> ah
[13:17:25 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> no
[13:17:55 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> you should look into it eventually ... very nice to be able to watch things like connection pools live
[13:18:03 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> and memory usage and other fun stuff like that
[13:18:21 EDT(-0400)] * pberry checks wiki for jmx fu
[13:19:48 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> we currently look at memory with an old hack jsp from Adam R.
[13:20:14 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> jmx == wonderful
[13:20:29 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> we're actually working on a dashboard type app to gather and display data via jmx from multiple servers
[13:20:33 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> we have the gathering end done
[13:20:40 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I just need to find some time to work on the display end
[13:21:36 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> like, html display type stuff?
[13:21:43 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yeah
[13:21:51 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> our goal is to have a page we can just leave up on a computer
[13:22:11 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> that shows nice pretty colors (green == ok) (yellow == better fix things) (red == find a new job)
[13:22:13 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist>
[13:22:20 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> along with more detailed info
[13:22:43 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> the goal is to monitor memory usage, GC times, thread pools, database pools, ldap pools and caches
[13:22:51 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> gathering the info is easy
[13:23:02 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> making it into a nice display will be a bit more work
[13:23:07 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> but it should be pretty generic
[13:23:20 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> so hopefully we can publish it and present on it next spring
[13:23:50 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> that would rock
[13:24:13 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> I have a guy that is really good at data displays
[13:24:23 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> mmm
[13:24:25 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> He's a Tufte disciple, or rather, fan boy
[13:24:31 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> Tufte?
[13:26:16 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> Edward Tufte
[13:26:36 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> he writes about displaying data
[13:27:22 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> ah
[13:27:36 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> well I may ask for some mockups then
[13:41:18 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> yeah, because I think this is something we'd like to use too
[13:42:02 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> awesome, it will likely be another few weeks before I get back to it but I'll try to write up some descriptions and such when we do and see if we can collaborate a bit on this
[13:44:03 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> Scott's UI stuff is very popular on campus
[13:44:22 EDT(-0400)] <pberry> at least in the IT department. they are typically used to horrible UI...
[13:46:50 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> lol
[13:46:59 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> well data display isn't an easy ui problem
[13:47:10 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> you want as much as you can in a small space and have it quickly readable
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