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[09:50:13 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> hey apetro, The logbot updates based on time and the ammount of traffic in the channel
[12:14:15 CST(-0600)] * esm (n=esm@clue.mse.jhu.edu) has joined ##uportal
[12:24:10 CST(-0600)] <esm> hey eric, i gotta finish up a couple of things and get some coffee but if you wanted to chat regarding preferences I should be "free" around 1:45 or 2 pm
[12:31:42 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> ok ... thats est?
[12:32:25 CST(-0600)] <esm> oh yeah est like in 30 minutes
[12:32:32 CST(-0600)] <esm> but if that isn't good for you that is fine
[12:32:47 CST(-0600)] <esm> i just need to get a couple of things out of the way before my afternoon is freed up
[12:33:04 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> lets say about an hour
[12:33:14 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> I'm working on getting the servant APIs all working
[12:33:49 CST(-0600)] <esm> ok no problem! I can get my meta-work done (writing documentation)
[13:31:19 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> looks like this servant stuff will take a little longer, 3pm EST still work for you?
[13:33:24 CST(-0600)] <esm> no problem eric whatsoever just ping me
[13:33:29 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> cool
[13:33:35 CST(-0600)] <esm> i've got stuff here to keep busy
[14:17:15 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> ok ...
[14:17:21 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> well I'm going to take a break from servants for a bit
[14:17:26 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> they're mostly working
[14:18:20 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> so ... whenever you're ready esm I can start brainstorming this portlet preference stuff
[14:19:00 CST(-0600)] <esm> ok let me get some coffee
[14:22:01 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> k
[14:26:34 CST(-0600)] <esm> ok back! i have my go go juice...
[14:26:41 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist>
[14:27:05 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> so ... design issues around uP3 handles portlet preferences
[14:27:10 CST(-0600)] <esm> yes
[14:27:24 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> the spec defines deployment preferences (from portlet.xml)
[14:27:36 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> and entity preferences (that a user/running portlet modifies)
[14:27:51 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> at least deployment/entity are our names for those two levels
[14:27:58 CST(-0600)] <esm> Ok.
[14:28:12 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> we add a 3rd level in the middle of that, definition preferences
[14:28:20 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> these are defined when publishing a portlet
[14:28:35 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> gives an admin a way to configure defaults for a portlet
[14:28:44 CST(-0600)] <esm> gotcha
[14:28:52 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> so we have these three layers of data
[14:29:00 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> the portlet gets one, flat view of all of that data
[14:29:08 CST(-0600)] <esm> i follow so far
[14:29:22 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> with values from higher levels overriding values from lower levels
[14:29:28 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> thats all the easy part
[14:29:38 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> the hard part is how we deal with storing preferences
[14:29:53 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> the portlet manager has an easy time because it works directly with the uP3 OM
[14:30:01 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> and knows which preferences object to write to