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[09:32:01 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> At the JASIG UnConference in Madison, WI
[09:32:56 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> people are introducing themselves
[09:33:42 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> Roger Despres now, interested in lifecycle of portlet. Deployment strategies, upgrade path, registry for portlets and content, today external spreadsheet
[09:34:29 EDT(-0400)] <rolfm> I'm logged on from Denison in Ohio. Aaron Fuleki and Michael Herring are representing us in Madison.
[09:34:42 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> oooh, log much appreciated, apetro-_
[09:34:54 EDT(-0400)] <rolfm> yes, seconded.
[09:35:07 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> JJM looking to get experts to speak up to introduce themselves
[09:35:09 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> Scott, Eric
[09:35:44 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> JJM introduced me. Wasn't too painful.
[09:36:00 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> Now introducing John Lewis and his Spring Portlet MVC expertise
[09:36:09 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> ouch, I've been outed as a Uniconer
[09:36:28 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> Shibboleth expertise, I think that's Scott Cantor speaking now
[09:37:22 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> Susan Bramhall relating her recent IdM project, interested in architecture of IdM conceptually
[09:37:57 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> implemented product about provisioning, still has a registry problem tobe discussed
[09:38:13 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> Mark from UW-Milwaukee. New CAS deployment.
[09:38:27 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> bending CAS for AuthZ
[09:38:57 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> Benno fighting Open Office now to draw an IdM diagram
[09:39:09 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> Tom Bartlett U of Chicago. I2.
[09:39:24 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> Shib, Grouper, other new stuff coming along.
[09:39:59 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> UChicago perspective, portal newbies. rolling out uPortal. gap between Shib strategy and n-tier authentication need
[09:41:43 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> Gary Shwartz from RPI. Bedework. interested in closer alliance with JASIG or Kuali, better understand culture.
[09:42:01 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> possibly lightning tlks about what's going on in calendar world more generally
[09:43:18 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> Nick Blair UW-Madison interested in integrating application exposing Oracle Calendar data. with Yale calendar portlet. athena7 take note. (smile)
[09:43:30 EDT(-0400)] * athena7 is watching!
[09:43:50 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> i'm very happy to be as involved as i can be via IRC/phone/etc.
[09:43:55 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> Aaron Godert. Cornell. Will field any Qs about Kuali Rice
[09:44:30 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> i believe there's already an Anthony Colebourne-developed Oracle Calendar adapter bundled w/ the Yale calendar portlet
[09:44:37 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> Kuali Rice is infrastructure middleware at bottom of all Kuali business apps. Can also run standalone for non-Kuali applications. Workflow, notification, otehr things
[09:45:09 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> Eric Dalquist interested in talking about developing administrative applications for uPortal. Admin of portal itself. Spring Web Flow for the win.
[09:45:44 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> Helwig invites Fluid folks to be identified and visible.
[09:45:51 EDT(-0400)] * athena7 cheers for fluid
[09:46:01 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> might mention the fluid release made it into uportal over the weekend
[09:46:10 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> athena7: cool-io!
[09:46:18 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> very!
[09:46:57 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> Anastasia mentions athena7 's having committed use of fluid reorderer into trunk this weekend.
[09:47:12 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> Allison Bloodworth on UX toolkit
[09:47:54 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> Tim Carroll. 4 people here from U of Illinois. Chin deep in implementation of uP 2.6.1
[09:48:00 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> already looking forward to upgrade to 3
[09:48:19 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> (wow there are a lot of talented people here. Good quantity. I feel overwhelmed)
[09:48:32 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> show of hands of folks upgrading to 3 at the moment
[09:48:34 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> meager
[09:49:00 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> Benno followup conversation about open source in higher ed. Suggests a beer topic. Followup on Ira's speech.
[09:50:07 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> JJM on Spring 2009 conference. dallas. First week in March. Format similar to last year's.
[09:51:19 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> Who wins prize for traveling furthest to get here?
[09:51:31 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> Hawaii?
[09:52:05 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> Rob Sherratt from U of Hull?
[09:53:01 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> Katya. Staff portal project. Migrating into Kuali world. How to integrate? Shib? Calendaring? IdM?
[09:54:20 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> David Beutel U of HI. CAS. Working lately on CAS for multi-level authentication. Has worked on KUali for a couple years. Interested in Rice, Shib.
[09:54:50 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> Hull. Has CASifiied a few apps. Some backdoor access in portal.
[09:56:28 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-> apetro- on CAS password passing mods
[09:56:41 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> Roger asking what folks are doing for administrative impersonation
[09:57:22 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> Tim Archer on parent access.
[09:58:21 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> Aaron ideas for beer discussions: mobile device development. Project management? Agile?
[09:58:24 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> Scrum?
[09:58:35 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> Susan wants to point out another expert in room: Drew Wills.
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[09:58:54 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> uP migration, automation, import-export
[09:59:12 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> Drew on docket for two lightning talks. Wants to talk about moving data around.
[09:59:21 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> Bookmarks portlet.
[09:59:34 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> Web flow for administrative portlets in uP
[09:59:46 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> JJM introducing Cenunnos
[09:59:54 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> Cernunnos, even
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[10:00:12 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> Mary Hunt on integrating with MS Exchange
[10:00:52 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> Steve Wheat. Emory U . Portal, SSO, and EAI SOA infrastructure.
[10:01:07 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> Hve you compared with Sun projects.
[10:02:28 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> uPortal competing with / relating to Sun OpenPortal
[10:02:41 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> Roger Despres. Infrastructure for uP? ESBs?
[10:03:36 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> Scott on CAS4 roadmap discussion
[10:03:48 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> JJM on recently having announced CAS project steering committee
[10:04:27 EDT(-0400)] * athena7 thinks ms exchange integration with the jasig calendar and mail portlets would be pretty cool
[10:04:28 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> first CAS steering committee will happen at this event
[10:05:22 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> Susan: Incubation working group looking to meet
[10:06:18 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> JJM on portlet incubation, larger project incubation
[10:07:08 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> Jim Helwig wants to have some time to talk about JASIG infrastructure. It's a serious pain point. Hoping to make improvements.
[10:07:37 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> Rob Sherratt on SharePoint. How effectively we integrate uP w/ SharePoint
[10:08:11 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> Jens on integrating with other things. Confluence.
[10:09:51 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> JJM on agenda. Lightning talks this AM. Poll people about many topics. Schedule them.
[10:10:22 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> Lunch at noon. Same place as breakfast
[10:10:49 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> deciding whether to take a break
[10:11:39 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> Drew Wills setting up for Lightning Talk, needs to project.
[10:12:10 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> Greg of RPI prsenting first, needs no projector
[10:12:58 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> Greg talk on Bedework. Diverged from UW Calendar
[10:13:06 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> 2.5 years ago first release
[10:13:11 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> just about to release 3.5
[10:13:24 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> adopted by some number of universities
[10:13:25 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> open source
[10:13:58 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> recent developments: this weekend RPI opened experimental performance arts theatre. Needed a performance ticketing system
[10:14:14 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> interesting distributed project. Calendar system to drive applications.
[10:14:27 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> paper on website about this project.
[10:15:04 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> CalDAV
[10:15:17 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> OpenConnect.
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[10:15:41 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> Idea would be CalDAV integration with Outlook.
[10:16:15 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> CalConnect calendaring and scheduling consortium, Bedework active in.
[10:16:28 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> CalDAV. New website. calconnect.org
[10:17:05 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> mobile devices.
[10:17:20 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> XSLT to generate mobile calendaring websites
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[10:17:54 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> escaping syncronization nightmare
[10:18:14 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> server-to-server calendaring protocol
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[10:18:45 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> CalDAV scheduling.
[10:19:06 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> Public events calendaring. Associating rich data with calendar events.
[10:20:11 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> impressed with Unicon-Georgia Tech Sakai CalDAV work
[10:21:12 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> Common Solutions Group. Wrote letter to M$ urging them to support CalDAV.
[10:25:14 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> Drew Wills Lighning talk on import-export
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[10:41:35 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> oh no, the narrator left (sad)
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[10:54:07 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> Eric on portlet web flows for uP admin portlets
[10:54:48 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yay, you're back!
[10:55:07 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> (back from coffee break. Still have consumed entirely too little caffeine)
[10:56:09 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> Nick Blair integrating with Oracle calendar
[10:56:27 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> Nick wrote Calendar Key. A simple application integratin w/ Oracle calendar
[10:56:35 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> get calendar data from Oracle
[10:56:50 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> (showing in acion on screen)
[10:57:38 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> re-implementation on integration developed at Bristol
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[11:02:02 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> Nick Blair's goal for this week is to implement Oracle / Calenadar Key plugin for Yale-developed Calendar portlet
[11:02:33 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> what's Calendar Key?
[11:02:37 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> oh
[11:02:40 EDT(-0400)] * athena7 scrolls up
[11:03:11 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> nick might be interested in taking a look at the manchester-developed oracle calendar adapter in the contrib directory of the calendar portlet
[11:03:16 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> bridge to Oracle Calendar, exposing data in reasonably standardsy ways including iCal, RSS,
[11:03:20 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> my impression was that anthony colebourne has it very much working
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[11:03:36 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> and there is nick
[11:03:37 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> although i may have broken it slightly in recent updates (might just need an extra method or two)
[11:03:43 EDT(-0400)] <uwnick> hello
[11:03:50 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> uwnick , meet athena7. athena7, meet uwnick
[11:03:51 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> i suspect that likely uses web services or the oracle api rather than ical/rss
[11:03:55 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> hello uwnick!
[11:04:21 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> Benn Oshrin on IdM
[11:04:29 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> OpenRegistry
[11:05:01 EDT(-0400)] <uwnick> brief intro - I'm the author of calendarkey, the main site (for now) is https://mywebspace.wisc.edu/npblair/calendarkey
[11:05:18 EDT(-0400)] <uwnick> looking forward to working on the great yale calendarportlet!
[11:05:29 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> that sounds great!
[11:06:12 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> before you came in, i mentioned that Anthony Colebourne (Manchester) developed an Oracle Calendar adapter for the calendar portlet that's distributed in the contrib directory of the project
[11:06:21 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> it may need an update or two to bring it in line w/ the current api
[11:06:58 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> although you could certainly probably just use the existing adapters to connect to the iCalendar functionality you've written already
[11:07:01 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> that's really cool (smile)
[11:07:41 EDT(-0400)] <uwnick> i was looking at the calendarportlet this morning; it should be straightforward to extend the httpicaladapter
[11:07:56 EDT(-0400)] <uwnick> the trunk version of calendarkey includes a rest style web service to deliver data
[11:08:04 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> oh cool (smile)
[11:08:16 EDT(-0400)] <uwnick> the urls look like /calendarkey/ws/username/startdate/enddate
[11:08:20 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> there's functionality built in to create custom edit screens as well, if you want to use it
[11:08:31 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yeah that sounds very doable
[11:08:48 EDT(-0400)] <uwnick> we should talk about ideas for securing those requests, but the functions work
[11:08:59 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> an edit screen letting users select those dates (from happy javascript calendar widgets) that then composed the right query URL might be cool
[11:09:07 EDT(-0400)] <uwnick> we could even generate a separate kind of "share" for accessing them
[11:09:51 EDT(-0400)] <uwnick> eric just pointed out to me that uw's svn is now accessible via the internet, i've granted anonymous readonly access to calendarkey's svn
[11:09:53 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> on, second thought, less with the calendar widget – it's relative dates that matter
[11:10:05 EDT(-0400)] <uwnick> https://svn.doit.wisc.edu/svn/wisccal/calendarkey/ - trunk has the rest functions
[11:11:16 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> Benn Oshrin presenting on OpenRegistry project
[11:11:20 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> the calendar portlet has been used to do both CAS and basic auth
[11:11:24 EDT(-0400)] <higpetter> ja-sig.org died?
[11:11:27 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> so such things are certainly possible
[11:11:40 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> i think there are some examples of both of those in the project already
[11:11:54 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> works for me ...
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[11:12:05 EDT(-0400)] <higpetter> just woke up again (wink)
[11:12:45 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> http://idms.rutgers.edu/openregistry
[11:13:28 EDT(-0400)] * holdorph wonders why apetro needs such a complicated nick
[11:13:56 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> complicated fellow?
[11:14:20 EDT(-0400)] * apetro-_ underscores my dashingness
[11:14:24 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> lol
[11:15:13 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> Tyler from USD on content management integration in portal
[11:15:53 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> my dahes and underscores are generated by Linkinus trying to find a non-colliding username on re-connections when prior connection is still live
[11:16:47 EDT(-0400)] <apetro-_> integrating with CommonSpot
[11:18:01 EDT(-0400)] <uwnick> question about private Set<CalendarEvent> getEvents(CalendarConfiguration calendarListing, Period period) in HttpICalAdapter
[11:18:33 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> what's the question?
[11:18:40 EDT(-0400)] <uwnick> it gets the url from the CalendarConfiguration's definition's Map named parameters
[11:18:47 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yes
[11:18:55 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> that's the user-configurable http ical adapter
[11:19:07 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> so we let the url be a parameter so the user can type it into a form
[11:19:12 EDT(-0400)] <uwnick> could we extract that function to an overridable method?
[11:19:26 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yes
[11:19:43 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> although it's kind of more complicated than that, potentially
[11:19:52 EDT(-0400)] <uwnick> well, it may not quite work solely in that method - because in the portlet, we'll need to extract the user's "username" attribute in order to construct the rest url to retrieve
[11:19:56 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> for instance, the cas auth adapters will have to further modify that base url
[11:20:02 EDT(-0400)] <uwnick> exactly
[11:20:11 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> right
[11:20:39 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> but probably still possible to factor that out
[11:20:51 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> just need to pay some attention to caching
[11:21:01 EDT(-0400)] <uwnick> sure
[11:21:30 EDT(-0400)] <uwnick> what is the difference between the "downloadUrl" and "url" parameters stored in the definition?
[11:22:11 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> so there was a requirement at yale to be able to let users click on a calendar to download it
[11:23:01 EDT(-0400)] <uwnick> ah - so if i want the user to be able to download it with a link, I use that; if not I focus solely on url (I'm thinking I'd not allow the download, since the user may not have access to the data url, depending on how we secure it)
[11:23:03 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> for calendars that were ical feeds, we put a little "download" button on the edit page
[11:23:12 EDT(-0400)] <apetro> Scott Cantor presenting on Shib
[11:23:19 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yeah, more or less
[11:23:31 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> potentially you might have a url and a download url, since they could potentially be different
[11:23:40 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> w/ cas auth the real url would have a cas token on it
[11:23:54 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> the download url we'd probably leave it off and just let the user authenticate when they clicked on the link
[11:24:31 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> please do feel free to make suggestions and propose changes and such
[11:24:51 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> the code really needs to be tried out by others and cleaned up a bit so we can declare a release someday
[11:25:12 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> i think it would probably also be worthwhile to refactor the database a little - group all user calendars under one calendar set
[11:25:30 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> since that would make it a lot easier to someday implement features to have different sets of data for each portlet instance, if people wanted that
[11:28:29 EDT(-0400)] * apetro wishes Howard Gilbert had been able to come to the UnConference
[11:29:57 EDT(-0400)] <apetro> Shib n-tier authentication swamp
[11:30:04 EDT(-0400)] <apetro> integration with Microsoft CardSpace
[11:30:26 EDT(-0400)] <apetro> aggregations of user attributes across systems and privacy
[11:30:36 EDT(-0400)] <apetro> Java service provider implementation?
[11:31:30 EDT(-0400)] <apetro> JJM draws today's lighning talks to a close
[11:35:07 EDT(-0400)] <apetro> voting on and scheduling today's sessinos
[11:45:07 EDT(-0400)] * apetro wonders if JASIG has any working groups on which I don't sit
[11:45:21 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> (smile)
[11:46:05 EDT(-0400)] <apetro> anyone physically present @ jasig unconf have a spare Ethernet cable?
[11:49:01 EDT(-0400)] <uwnick> i do
[11:49:10 EDT(-0400)] * apetro approves of having breaks. With coffee. Lots of coffee.
[11:52:23 EDT(-0400)] * apetro thinks maybe he should have brought a portable projector
[11:52:40 EDT(-0400)] * apetro along with an Ethernet cable
[11:53:12 EDT(-0400)] <apetro> Thanks, uwnick, for volunteering cable. Will connect with you at break to get it to who needs it
[11:55:25 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I'll bring a few cables from home tomorrow too if more are needed
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[12:19:22 EDT(-0400)] <uwnick> another question about the calendarportlet
[12:19:46 EDT(-0400)] <uwnick> the public Set<CalendarEvent> getEvents(CalendarConfiguration calendar,Period period, HttpServletRequest request) method on ICalendarAdapter
[12:22:35 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yes
[12:22:53 EDT(-0400)] <uwnick> I guess I'm just unclear on it's purpose
[12:23:13 EDT(-0400)] <uwnick> is there a non-portlet contained interface for the calendarportlet?
[12:23:14 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> as opposed to the portlet request one?
[12:23:17 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yes
[12:23:19 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> well
[12:23:20 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> ajax
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[12:23:37 EDT(-0400)] <uwnick> ah - so the javascript accesses this servlet
[12:23:38 EDT(-0400)] <uwnick> ok
[12:23:41 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> right
[12:24:29 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> might be better done using the kind of action request approach that eric used in the ajax notepad portlet
[12:25:17 EDT(-0400)] <uwnick> follow up then - I'll need to extract the currently logged in user's username in order to construct the rest url
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[12:25:28 EDT(-0400)] <uwnick> request.getRemoteUser()?
[12:25:43 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> but right now we dump anything important into the session so it can be shared by the ajax pieces
[12:25:43 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yes
[12:25:48 EDT(-0400)] <apetro> in Eric Dalquist's web floew session
[12:27:59 EDT(-0400)] * apetro makes a mental note to bring a spare video cable or two next time
[12:30:25 EDT(-0400)] * apetro makes a mental note to bring quality whiteboard markers for next time
[12:32:28 EDT(-0400)] <apetro> Yay! JSF not required when using Spring Web Flow in Spring Portlet MVC
[12:33:51 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yes, works extremely well w/o it
[12:33:54 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> better, even, perhaps
[12:39:58 EDT(-0400)] <fulekia> Hey all, I'm heading out to the airport in a bit - Madison ho!
[12:40:40 EDT(-0400)] <fulekia> Parker sent me some notes and his javadocs for the Banner integration SUU has done.
[12:40:59 EDT(-0400)] <fulekia> I'd like to see if anybody would be up for a brainstorming session on that tomorrow
[12:41:10 EDT(-0400)] <fulekia> or weds
[12:41:34 EDT(-0400)] <fulekia> apetro: Should I bring more dry erase markers? (wink)
[12:44:33 EDT(-0400)] <apetro> @fulekia that's a great idea
[12:48:50 EDT(-0400)] * apetro is getting twitchy. Wants to code up a Spring Portlet MVC web flow portlet.
[13:04:37 EDT(-0400)] * apetro extollls virtues of proxy CAS
[13:05:24 EDT(-0400)] * athena7 cheers for proxy cas
[13:05:28 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> and spring web flow is pretty cool
[13:07:45 EDT(-0400)] <apetro> nah, I think it's a fad. That Spring thing will never catch on.
[13:08:22 EDT(-0400)] <apetro> discussing drag and drop tooling for editing web flows
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[14:01:16 EDT(-0400)] <apetro> In Roger Despres's uPortal monitoring session
[14:03:26 EDT(-0400)] <apetro> Roger asks: What are people doing for monitoring the dependencies of the portal
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[14:05:33 EDT(-0400)] <apetro> <name escapes me> from Wisconsin talking about prospective JMX-based monitoring app
[14:05:42 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> John Hare
[14:06:17 EDT(-0400)] <apetro> \me suddenly recalls that the gentleman from WI talking about prospective JMX-using monitoring application is named John Hare.
[14:07:52 EDT(-0400)] <apetro> Eric Dalquist extols virtues of JMX in uPortal 3
[14:10:30 EDT(-0400)] * apetro itches to instrument channels in uPortal and provide a modern version of the /problems servlet view
[14:10:40 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> (smile)
[14:10:45 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> spring makes that very easy
[14:12:10 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yeah it really is easy with spring
[14:12:17 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> their little jmx bean exporter thingy
[14:17:58 EDT(-0400)] <uwnick> more calendarportlet fun
[14:18:57 EDT(-0400)] <uwnick> when deploying the calendarportlet, how do i configure my icalendaradapter implementation to be used
[14:20:47 EDT(-0400)] <uwnick> i found the applicationContext, i think i'll get it
[14:23:20 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> yep, in the application context
[14:23:36 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> then you'll have to add it to the portlet database so that users can enable/disable it
[14:23:50 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> there's an admin interface for doing that now, although you have to have the roles hooked up right
[14:41:21 EDT(-0400)] * apetro remembers his bright college years implementing many-threaded XML feed caching module for uPortal
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[15:19:26 EDT(-0400)] <apetro> discussing incubation in susan's session
[15:51:36 EDT(-0400)] <apetro> I believe Scott's already taken, athena7, but it's a nice thought.
[15:52:06 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> hm?
[15:52:07 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> oh.
[15:52:21 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> maybe i should have said "yay not-broken confluence"
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[17:19:10 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> gack, eclipse just ate itself after an update
[17:19:27 EDT(-0400)] * holdorph notes to not update eclipse today.
[17:19:47 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> like I need any more difficulties with Sakai and eclipse.
[17:20:06 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I now get "the eclipse executable launcher was unable to locate its companion launcher jar" when I try to start it ....
[17:20:42 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> someone on the sakai-dev list said something like that
[17:27:57 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> there fixed ...
[17:28:06 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> the updater didn't update the eclipse.ini file
[17:28:25 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> so it was pointing to a launcher jar in plugins that didn't exist
[17:29:16 EDT(-0400)] <holdorph> so you had to fix it manually?
[17:29:21 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yup
[17:29:35 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> better edit one text file than re-install eclipse
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[17:43:26 EDT(-0400)] <apetro> I see your jMeter script and I raise you The Grinder
[17:46:46 EDT(-0400)] * holdorph considers the pot odds and folds.
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