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[09:54:40 EST(-0500)] <dstn> EricDalquist: these are what I deem to be important required entities http://uportal.pastebin.com/m67cf41e3
[09:55:13 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> dstn: thanks!
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[10:16:16 EST(-0500)] <holdorph> EricDalquist_mtg, when you're done with your meeting, can you take 90 seconds and reply to my jasig panel email?
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[10:58:43 EST(-0500)] <dstn> athena7...were there any CSS fixes for chrome in 3.1-rc1?
[10:58:56 EST(-0500)] <athena7> yes
[10:59:06 EST(-0500)] <dstn> I noticed a coworker using it yesterday and the edit/max/etc icons were slightly off
[10:59:10 EST(-0500)] <athena7> actually i think they made it into 3.1-M2 and 3.0.3-RC1
[10:59:11 EST(-0500)] <dstn> ok
[10:59:29 EST(-0500)] <athena7> however, the skin was totally redone for the rc1 and i have no idea if those fixes were preserved
[10:59:43 EST(-0500)] <dstn> totally redone...really
[10:59:51 EST(-0500)] <athena7> if it's still off in rc1 can you file a bug describing the behavior and the browser/skin combination?
[11:00:01 EST(-0500)] <athena7> yeah, it looks like the new jasig website now
[11:00:11 EST(-0500)] <dstn> oh wow, didn't know that
[11:00:17 EST(-0500)] <holdorph> that sux
[11:00:29 EST(-0500)] * dstn still in the process of committing the merge
[11:00:32 EST(-0500)] <holdorph> all my screenshots I did last week. plooey
[11:00:40 EST(-0500)] <dstn> lol
[11:00:42 EST(-0500)] <dstn> pwn3d
[11:00:46 EST(-0500)] <athena7> oh.
[11:00:50 EST(-0500)] <athena7> yes, that does suck
[11:00:51 EST(-0500)] <holdorph> something
[11:01:11 EST(-0500)] <holdorph> i'm all for nice looking skins and themes
[11:01:25 EST(-0500)] <holdorph> but this whole new skin, per release cycle is really kicking my a**
[11:01:47 EST(-0500)] <holdorph> 2.5 -> 2.6, new skin, 2.6 -> 3.0, new skin, 3.0 -> 3.1, new skin
[11:02:15 EST(-0500)] <dstn> hah
[11:02:34 EST(-0500)] <dstn> who did the new skin?
[11:02:53 EST(-0500)] * athena7 suggests holdorph take that one up w/ the other side of his cube wall
[11:03:24 EST(-0500)] <dstn> whoa, now its gettin personal
[11:03:28 EST(-0500)] <dstn>
[11:03:37 EST(-0500)] <athena7> lol
[11:03:38 EST(-0500)] <athena7> nah
[11:03:48 EST(-0500)] <holdorph> he wasn't responsible for the first one
[11:03:53 EST(-0500)] <holdorph> but yeah.
[11:04:04 EST(-0500)] <athena7> gary thompson wrote the skins for both 3.0 and 3.1
[11:04:13 EST(-0500)] <holdorph> yeah, but not the 2.6 one
[11:04:17 EST(-0500)] <athena7> yeah
[11:04:20 EST(-0500)] <athena7> i think that was rutgers?
[11:04:21 EST(-0500)] <dstn> cool
[11:04:21 EST(-0500)] * holdorph stares hard at his cube wall
[11:04:25 EST(-0500)] <holdorph> yes
[11:04:28 EST(-0500)] <athena7> i think that was necessitated by an all new theme though
[11:04:44 EST(-0500)] <dstn> does the old one still exist?
[11:04:48 EST(-0500)] <athena7> the themes have changed since then too, but i think not as radically
[11:04:50 EST(-0500)] <athena7> dstn: no
[11:04:52 EST(-0500)] <dstn> i.e. changeable?
[11:04:56 EST(-0500)] <dstn> bummer
[11:05:21 EST(-0500)] <athena7> i think it might be reasonable to put it back in and clean it up for 3.1, but i don't know if people have interest in doing that or not
[11:05:35 EST(-0500)] <athena7> i cleaned up the ivy skin for 3.1, so that's still available
[11:06:59 EST(-0500)] <athena7> there are some changes, but i think it should generally be possible to use old skins in 3.1 with a little bit of editing
[11:07:11 EST(-0500)] <athena7> there are a few ids that changed, and the tabs are now relatively positioned
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[11:11:33 EST(-0500)] <athena7> the other major change is that the layout is now div-based, rather than table-based, but that didnt' seem to affect the ivy skin at all
[11:36:56 EST(-0500)] * dstn sigh...eclipse build at 71% forever
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[11:51:07 EST(-0500)] <mrogers> does anyone know if our JIRA instance is, well, having a bad day?
[11:55:06 EST(-0500)] <athena7> i hadn't done anything there today, but now that i try, it doesn't seem to be loading for me
[12:01:05 EST(-0500)] <dstn> Service Temporarily Unavailable
[12:01:09 EST(-0500)] <dstn> for me
[12:01:16 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist_mtg> hey
[12:01:19 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist_mtg> so jira is dead?
[12:01:29 EST(-0500)] <dstn> I guess...
[12:01:39 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> Ill go kick it
[12:01:46 EST(-0500)] <dstn> lol
[12:08:37 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> anyone recommend a good intro to java book
[12:09:42 EST(-0500)] <holdorph> does the person know programming or not?
[12:09:58 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> just very basic background
[12:10:07 EST(-0500)] <athena7> headfirst java?
[12:10:14 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> that's what I was looking at
[12:10:20 EST(-0500)] <holdorph> back when I was teaching 1st and 2cd semester programming at the university, i found there were two different books
[12:10:50 EST(-0500)] <holdorph> I liked the Deitel and Deitel book for introduction to programming
[12:11:14 EST(-0500)] <holdorph> thinking in java is pretty good if you already knew a programming language before coming to java
[12:11:18 EST(-0500)] <athena7> lunch, back later
[12:11:19 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> Java How to Program, 7th Edition by Harvey M. Deitel and Paul J. Deitel
[12:11:37 EST(-0500)] <holdorph> yup
[12:11:55 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> great, thanks
[12:12:13 EST(-0500)] <mrogers> i have the Herb Schildt book - Java: A Beginner's Guide (I think, that's what it is called) ... nice entry level book
[12:13:36 EST(-0500)] <mrogers> i had heard that the Headfirst books are good
[12:16:11 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> hrm ... so jira is still having issues ...
[12:16:37 EST(-0500)] <mrogers> i still get "Service Temporarily Unavailable"
[12:17:38 EST(-0500)] <mrogers> ... I'll have to remember that one ... "jira is having issues"
[12:21:00 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> ok jira is fixed
[12:21:54 EST(-0500)] <mrogers> nice, thanks
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[12:34:09 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> so we have a requirement here that I'm thinking would get filled nicely by a portal web service to generate portal URLs
[12:34:16 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> a nice simple REST type WS
[12:34:32 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> you could pass in things like fname, parameters, tab name
[12:34:38 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> and it spits out a full portal URL for you
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[12:36:46 EST(-0500)] <mrogers> sounds interesting ... what would be the consumer?
[12:37:19 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> in this case a little servlet we deploy with a portlet to allow direct linking into the portlet with parameters
[12:37:31 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> I don't want to have some remote app hardcode the portal URL format
[12:37:47 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> so we're going to make a little servlet in the portlet webapp with its own static url format
[12:38:01 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> the servlet could then do a WS call to build the appropriate portal URL and do a redirect
[12:38:31 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> if the remote site doing linking to the portal was dynamic it could use the WS directly but it is not (we provide them the URLs they use in a spreadsheet )
[12:45:13 EST(-0500)] <mrogers> you mentioned a requirement
[12:45:40 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> so the requirement is "external site deep links into a portlet"
[12:45:53 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> that functionality is there in the portal, fname + parameters
[12:46:18 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> the problem with using it as-is is if we ever change the portal URL syntax we break the external site
[12:46:53 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> which is where it would be nice to have an API to generate these URLs using the internal URL generate code that exists in the portal
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