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[10:23:16 CST(-0600)] <Arvids> thinking about the possible causes... but I have no other ideas that Eric haven't mentioned already
[10:24:48 CST(-0600)] <dd__> yeah, it's on the dev instance right now so if i have to i can install everything from scratch again. but i'd like to know the reason incase it comes up again
[10:25:29 CST(-0600)] <Arvids> have you tried to inspect tomcat state using JConsole?