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[08:06:23 CST(-0600)] <Arvids> it seems that selecting for ID and later loading by retrieved id is faster
[08:06:45 CST(-0600)] <Arvids> it showed me a lot of selects and not a single join
[08:07:00 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> huh
[08:07:06 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> thats good to know
[08:07:13 CST(-0600)] <Arvids> https://community.jboss.org/wiki/HibernateFAQ-AdvancedProblems#Hibernate_ignores_my_outerjointrue_or_fetchjoin_setting_and_fetches_an_association_lazily_using_n1_selects
[08:07:16 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> I'll have to take a look at the unit tests for the jpa daos again
[08:07:39 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> ahhh
[08:07:42 CST(-0600)] <Arvids> I assume the same behaviour applies for EntityManager (not only hibernate´s Session)
[08:07:44 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> ok I think we can work around this