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[14:59:48 CDT(-0500)] <athena> the other possibility is that there's something going on w/ the spring security + your shibboleth setup

[15:00:41 CDT(-0500)] <athena> you might step through the PortalPermissionEvaluator to see if you can narrow down the behavior

[15:00:43 CDT(-0500)] <b-sure> I would think for that then maybe madison would have a similar issue.