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[14:25:32 CDT(-0500)] <b-sure> its actually undefined

[14:27:34 CDT(-0500)] <athena> ok, that does sound like a problem

[14:27:37 CDT(-0500)] <b-sure> thats what makes me think there are no groups available to build the breadcrumbs

[14:27:47 CDT(-0500)] <athena> is that for the very first ajax request?

[14:27:52 CDT(-0500)] <b-sure> maybe it has to do w/ us using grouper?

[14:27:58 CDT(-0500)] <b-sure> it is.

[14:28:02 CDT(-0500)] <b-sure> for the first request

[14:28:05 CDT(-0500)] <athena> ok

[14:28:07 CDT(-0500)] <b-sure> same goes for categories

[14:28:12 CDT(-0500)] <athena> so it sounds like it's not able to locate that root group

[14:28:21 CDT(-0500)] <athena> maybe step through that ajax target servlet w/ a debugger and see what's going on?

[14:28:28 CDT(-0500)] <b-sure> so the page doesn't fail to load, but processing stops in that file