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[13:35:37 CDT(-0500)] <athena> ok, i guess i'm not quite following, sorry 
[13:35:47 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> what is a sub-context?
[13:35:48 CDT(-0500)] <b-sure> the issue is that for shibb to kick in , you need to attempt to access a protected resource
[13:36:03 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> b-sure: why not have a phantom url for the shib login?
[13:36:05 CDT(-0500)] <b-sure> subcontext like /uPortal/subcontextpath/protlet
[13:36:06 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> we do that all the time
[13:36:20 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> setup a <location> block in apache
[13:36:25 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> protect it with shib
[13:36:30 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> and define a redirect to the portal
[13:36:43 CDT(-0500)] <b-sure> yeah thats what I'm thinking . I'm talking to an admin now about a phantom path for shib. but I think it still needs to be a sub context of the portal