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[09:23:53 CDT(-0500)] <athena> yeah, i just use vanilla spring portletmvc for a lot of stuff

[09:24:12 CDT(-0500)] <athena> i think flows only make sense when you have something that's a multi-step form type process

[09:24:22 CDT(-0500)] <athena> for simpler stuff it just gets awkward

[09:24:27 CDT(-0500)] <Arvids> ok, it's just that i saw almost everything done using flows

[09:24:42 CDT(-0500)] * Arvids agrees

[09:24:45 CDT(-0500)] <athena> most of the stuff in uportal itself is so we can reuse subflows, etc.

[09:24:55 CDT(-0500)] <athena> but a lot of our portlets outside of uportal aren't

[09:24:58 CDT(-0500)] <Arvids> yeah, but that's mostly in administrative part

[09:25:04 CDT(-0500)] <athena> and we have some non-flow portlets in uportal too