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[09:39:17 CST(-0600)] <bszabo> Hi Eric. I have a question for you concerning Portlet Preferences and channel parameters.
[10:06:56 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> oh hey
[10:07:00 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> whats up?
[10:07:51 CST(-0600)] <bszabo> Hey, I just have a question about portlet preferences
[10:07:57 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> ok
[10:07:57 CST(-0600)] <bszabo> Is there a specific reason why portlet preferences defined in the portlet.xml were not included as channel definition parameters?
[10:08:11 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> are we talking up2?
[10:08:16 CST(-0600)] <bszabo> yes
[10:08:32 CST(-0600)] <bszabo> Sorry, I should have mentioned that
[10:08:37 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> is this a Channel Manager question then too?
[10:08:57 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> as in why aren't the portlet.xml prefs displayed in channel manager when publishing?
[10:08:59 CST(-0600)] <bszabo> That is related.
[10:09:37 CST(-0600)] <bszabo> RDBMChannelRegistryStore only loads preferences defined in the DB, not from portlet.xml
[10:10:15 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> but the portlet still sees both
[10:10:24 CST(-0600)] <bszabo> Yes, it does
[10:10:30 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> since the portlet.xml prefernces are part of the portlet object model
[10:10:50 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> I guess they aren't loaded since a need for portlet preferences in the channel code was never seen
[10:11:18 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> the only place portlet preferences are 'used' is in the portlet itself or in the Channel Manager during publishing
[10:11:39 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> it would be nice if the portlet.xml prefs were shown in the Channel Manager so you could see the default values
[10:12:08 CST(-0600)] <bszabo> That would require all Portlet Prefs to be added as channel parameters
[10:12:35 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> yup
[10:12:59 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> so what is the need for portlet preferences to show up as channel definition parameters?
[10:13:02 CST(-0600)] <bszabo> Okay. Cool. I will create a JIRA ticket for it and get it done. Thanks
[10:13:38 CST(-0600)] <bszabo> We use some of the channel parameters in the rendering
[10:13:59 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> well you can still have channel parameters associated with a portlet
[10:14:15 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> I'd vote to just do that versus using portlet preferences outside their scope
[10:14:32 CST(-0600)] <bszabo> Portlet Prefs defined in portlet.xml are therefore not available. Users can add them through the Channel Manager, but we would like the defaults loading with the Portlet definition
[10:15:13 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> so it sounds like there are two issues here?
[10:15:29 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> one is wanting to use portlet preferences in the portal chrome rendering
[10:15:52 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> another is wanting the default portlet preferences to be shown in the Channel Parameters UI of Channel Manager
[10:16:21 CST(-0600)] <bszabo> How do you associate channel parameters associated with a portlet aside from the preferences and init parameters?
[10:16:35 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> I'd actually think creating another Channel Manager screen called Portlet Preferences and actually allow multi-valued preferences
[10:16:37 CST(-0600)] <bszabo> But the fix is the same
[10:16:38 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> a chanpub
[10:17:11 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> in a chanpub parameters prefixed with PORTLET. are read as portlet preferences and those without are read as channel parameters
[10:17:35 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> the fix should probably be to make the Channel Parameters screen of Channel Manager go back to actually setting channel parameters
[10:17:45 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> and add a Portlet Preferences screen
[10:18:02 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> since they are two different things
[10:18:42 CST(-0600)] <bszabo> Okay. Sounds like a better approach
[10:18:42 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> just my opinion though (smile)
[10:18:59 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> you may want to write it up a bit and send a note do jasig-dev about it
[10:19:40 CST(-0600)] <bszabo> Okay. Will do.
[10:19:47 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> cool
[10:19:49 CST(-0600)] <bszabo> Thanks for your input
[10:19:55 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> np
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[11:28:25 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> oi I can't wait until we move the project to a real Maven2 structure
[11:28:33 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> fixing these unit tests will be MUCH easier
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[12:00:51 CST(-0600)] <deuce_> bye deuce
[12:01:40 CST(-0600)] <deuce_> hey has anyone had (a pleasant) experience with the spring PortletWrappingController?
[12:01:51 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> never tried it
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[12:58:19 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> So I'm almost done cleaning up the unit tests
[12:58:32 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> and thoughts on what should be done with the HttpUnit based tests in there?
[14:14:09 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> we had agreed that WSRP was going to be left of of this upcoming release of uP3 correct?
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[15:51:44 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> hey deuce can you recomend any good spring web flow books?
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[20:15:08 CST(-0600)] <deuce> eric, i was using dan's. It's pretty decent. i'll let you know which one it is tomorrow when i get back to the office
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