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[09:28:08 EDT(-0400)] <athena> EricDalquist: the mobile stuff is in the trunk now
[09:28:16 EDT(-0400)] <athena> despite my minor tussle with svn
[09:28:18 EDT(-0400)] * athena sighs
[09:59:20 EDT(-0400)] <athena> EricDalquist: is that change for ehcache not committed to the trunk yet?
[09:59:30 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> not yet
[09:59:36 EDT(-0400)] <athena> oh ok
[09:59:38 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i hadn't realized that
[09:59:42 EDT(-0400)] <athena> makes sense then
[10:16:51 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> JS is confusing
[10:17:03 EDT(-0400)] <athena> sometimes, yes
[10:17:06 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> firebug says an element has a height of 20
[10:17:10 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> jquery says 19
[10:17:22 EDT(-0400)] <athena> heh
[10:17:32 EDT(-0400)] <athena> and the answer might be different on different browsers
[10:17:48 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yeah{color}
[10:18:51 EDT(-0400)] <athena> unicon had a nice internal presentation this week on js for java devs
[10:19:08 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> nice
[10:19:10 EDT(-0400)] <athena> there's probably room in the world for more of that
[10:19:11 EDT(-0400)] <athena> yeah
[10:19:14 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> actually JS is pretty easy
[10:19:24 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> CSS and element positioning is hard
[10:19:27 EDT(-0400)] <athena> hehe
[10:19:49 EDT(-0400)] <athena> jquery has made js a whole lot easier, that's for sure
[10:19:58 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yeah
[10:20:05 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I read the fluid plugin stuff last night
[10:20:09 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> looks pretty good
[10:20:15 EDT(-0400)] <athena> yeah, i've been really happy with it
[10:20:19 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I need to find time to try it out
[10:20:32 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> but I like the approach of injecting selectors and event handlers
[10:20:32 EDT(-0400)] <athena> it feels more sane than the jQuery ui plugin style, which never really made sense to me
[10:20:34 EDT(-0400)] <athena> very spring-y
[10:20:35 EDT(-0400)] <athena> yeah
[10:20:39 EDT(-0400)] <athena> it feels familiar
[10:24:08 EDT(-0400)] <athena> do you want me to just add the ehache stuff to the trunk?
[10:24:23 EDT(-0400)] <athena> it's weird - i actually haven't tripped that error on my machine
[10:24:25 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> sure
[10:24:34 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> it depends when maven decides to check for new versions
[10:24:39 EDT(-0400)] <athena> yeah
[10:24:55 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> haven't tried this on other browsers yet
[10:25:01 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> but here is the new flyout approach: https://mywebspace.wisc.edu/dalquist/web/MUM_UI/mum31b/normal.html
[10:25:10 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> only home and portal admin have menus
[10:25:31 EDT(-0400)] <athena> looks good
[10:27:00 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> broken on IE
[10:27:28 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> really broken on IE
[10:27:40 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> both standard and compatibility mode on 8
[10:27:52 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist>
[10:28:03 EDT(-0400)] <athena>
[10:28:42 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> so much time ... so little to show for it
[10:28:48 EDT(-0400)] <athena> awww
[10:28:58 EDT(-0400)] <athena> what's happening with it?
[10:29:12 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> menu positioning in 8 standard
[10:29:18 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> zlayer issues in 8 compat
[10:29:33 EDT(-0400)] <athena> have you had any luck w/ bgiframe?
[10:30:14 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> well I'm calling the method
[10:30:16 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i still want to try playing w/ that
[10:30:20 EDT(-0400)] <athena> yeah
[10:30:28 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i think it might kinda need to be at the bottom of the page
[10:30:37 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> all you supposedly have to do is call .bgiframe() on the div
[10:30:43 EDT(-0400)] <athena> neat!
[10:30:45 EDT(-0400)] <athena> is it creating one?
[10:30:52 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I don't know
[10:30:59 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> since I don't have an easy way to check on IE
[10:31:03 EDT(-0400)] <athena> oh
[10:31:04 EDT(-0400)] <athena> lol
[10:31:07 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> it doesn't do it for browsers that don't need it
[10:31:11 EDT(-0400)] <athena> right
[10:31:25 EDT(-0400)] <athena> well, maybe i can at least clean up the js code
[10:31:34 EDT(-0400)] <athena> and it'll make it easier for us to change the markup down the line
[10:32:00 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> https://mywebspace.wisc.edu/dalquist/web/MUM_UI/mum31b/media/skins/universality/common/javascript/uportal/flyout-nav.js
[10:32:07 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> that is the 'new' flyout js
[10:32:42 EDT(-0400)] <athena> very nice
[10:32:54 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yeah
[10:32:58 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> if only it worked
[10:33:00 EDT(-0400)] <athena> be nice to make it a fluid component
[10:33:02 EDT(-0400)] <athena> lol
[10:33:53 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> so weird
[10:34:01 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> in IE8 all the tabs except the active tab works
[10:34:06 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> for the menus
[10:34:15 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i added the ehcache exclusion
[10:34:17 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> the active tab is positioned way wrong though
[10:34:22 EDT(-0400)] <athena> but i still see it in dependency:tree
[10:34:25 EDT(-0400)] <athena> should i worry about that?
[10:34:57 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> do you see it under resource-server?
[10:35:42 EDT(-0400)] <athena> yeah
[10:35:47 EDT(-0400)] <athena> for uportal-impl
[10:35:57 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> hrm
[10:35:59 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> it should be ok
[10:36:03 EDT(-0400)] <athena> ok
[10:36:21 EDT(-0400)] <athena> just weird - i don't know if it's not right, or if mvn dependency is wrong
[10:37:21 EDT(-0400)] <athena> well, it's in, anyway
[10:37:24 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> thanks
[10:37:46 EDT(-0400)] <athena> yep
[10:38:04 EDT(-0400)] <athena> gotta do something useful while all my builds run